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>It figures that this kind of parental behavior would come from a Christian >family that knows God exists. >Thank you for another example of why Christianity is the greatest evil in >our society. >It’s a cruel and sinister religion designed for stupid sadists.
Screw you, you godless punk. It’s my hope that Jesus shows up at your door and nukes you with lasers from his eyes.
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>Thanks! I hadn’t had a good laugh yet today! Oh, and by the way, did I ever >mention in any of my posts that my grandmother is a Christian? No I
didn’t. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, has feathers and webbed feet…. >I only said I am. What if I told you she was an atheist? I guess that >would make my story an example of why Atheism is the greatest evil in our >society. Cruel and sinister and designed for stupid sadists!! (just for the >record, my grandma is a Christian, I was just making a point.)
See, I was right. And I never said all Christians would act that way either. But chances were very great that, with you being a Christian (and "knowing" that there’s a God), and with her acting that way, she was a Christian too.
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>>It figures that this kind of parental behavior would come from a Christian >family that knows God exists. >Thank you for another example of why Christianity is the greatest evil in >our society. >It’s a cruel and sinister religion designed for stupid sadists. >Screw you, you godless punk. It’s my hope that Jesus shows up at your door and >nukes you with lasers from his eyes.
Yeah— nice, loving, nonviolent Jesus.
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Thanks! I hadn’t had a good laugh yet today! Oh, and by the way, did I ever mention in any of my posts that my grandmother is a Christian? No I didn’t. I only said I am. What if I told you she was an atheist? I guess that would make my story an example of why Atheism is the greatest evil in our society. Cruel and sinister and designed for stupid sadists!! (just for the record, my grandma is a Christian, I was just making a point.) Dawn (Taylor and Mackenzie’s mom)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->My grandma had a tecnique that worked wonders for a little boy she used to >babysit. The little boy came home from Kindergarten with a note that he >had >said s**t. She put him in a chair and made him say it for 10 minutes. He >sat there crying saying it over and over again. (His mom gave my grandma >permission to do this) His mom said he never said the word again. >Dawn (Taylor and Mackenzie’s mom) >It figures that this kind of parental behavior would come from a Christian >family that knows God exists. >Thank you for another example of why Christianity is the greatest evil in >our society. >It’s a cruel and sinister religion designed for stupid sadists.
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>My grandma had a tecnique that worked wonders for a little boy she used to >babysit. The little boy came home from Kindergarten with a note that he had >said s**t. She put him in a chair and made him say it for 10 minutes. He >sat there crying saying it over and over again. (His mom gave my grandma >permission to do this) His mom said he never said the word again. >Dawn (Taylor and Mackenzie’s mom)
It figures that this kind of parental behavior would come from a Christian family that knows God exists. Thank you for another example of why Christianity is the greatest evil in our society. It’s a cruel and sinister religion designed for stupid sadists.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->My grandma had a tecnique that worked wonders for a little boy she used to >babysit. The little boy came home from Kindergarten with a note that he > had >said s**t. She put him in a chair and made him say it for 10 minutes. He >sat there crying saying it over and over again. (His mom gave my grandma >permission to do this) His mom said he never said the word again. >Dawn (Taylor and Mackenzie’s mom) > It figures that this kind of parental behavior would come from a Christian > family that knows God exists. > Thank you for another example of why Christianity is the greatest evil in > our society. > It’s a cruel and sinister religion designed for stupid sadists.
Whoa! You have alot of animosity towards a whole lot of people! Where did it all come from? Suzy (who can feel the waves of anger coming off their post)
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->My grandma had a tecnique that worked wonders for a little boy she used to >babysit. The little boy came home from Kindergarten with a note that he > had >said s**t. She put him in a chair and made him say it for 10 minutes. He >sat there crying saying it over and over again. (His mom gave my grandma >permission to do this) His mom said he never said the word again. >Dawn (Taylor and Mackenzie’s mom) > It figures that this kind of parental behavior would come from a Christian > family that knows God exists. > Thank you for another example of why Christianity is the greatest evil in > our society. > It’s a cruel and sinister religion designed for stupid sadists.
I take offense at that generalization. I was raised in a Christian family and I am raising my children in one and there is NO WAY I would use this method. When my kids say a curse word, I simply ask them where they heard it and let them know that it isn’t an acceptable word to use. I tell them that if I hear them use it again, now that they know, I will simply take them over and put vinegar in their mouth. I never react with shock when I hear it so they don’t use it again for shock value. It is dealt in a matter of fact manner and that is the end of it. Since they have heard what the consequence is from this, I have NEVER heard them repeat any word they have used after they found out it wasn’t acceptable. My girls are 8, 7 & 5 and I have only heard a couple of words that I have had to tell them this. The BIGGEST thing that helps though is not using that type of language yourself. Our children NEVER hear any of our family members talk that way. My DH & I were both raised in families that didn’t talk that way and now we are doing the same in our family. If a child doesn’t hear it on a daily basis, it isn’t hard for them to learn NOT to use it.
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I don’t object to the language that’s the problem here so it’s not a problem in my house but…. At my daughters preschool (she’s now 7), the kids were not allowed to use the word ‘butt’, they had to use ‘bum,’ ‘rear end’ or ‘tushie’ or some equivalent. Now, we use the word ‘butt’ at home regularly and this was never a problem at school because we explained to my daughter that the word was offensive to the director of the preschool (and possibly some of the parents) so she mustn’t say it around people who might be offended by it. That’s all it took. Now, as a 1st grader, she’s learning all kinds of bad words from her peers but she chooses not to use any of them. I recently had a talk with her about ‘bad words’ and my feelings on them (they’re not bad unless they’re used to hurt someone, words on their own are just words) and exactly what some new ones she learned meant. I’d recommend having a short conversation explaining bad words and what they’re all about – when they’re appropriate and when they’re not – what they mean and why people use them etc, answer any questions he might have and then drop it. Talk to you day care provider about it so that she can have a talk with him too. The less fuss you make about it, the better. Good luck! -Alexis > My 5 yr old has recently picked up letting out that fabulous word, mostly > just matter-of-factly. That’s normally a word he wouldn’t hear around > the house, but once in a great while one would slip out. His mother and > I have taken great care to have us and others watch their mouths around > him. > His daycare person is now bringing it to our attention that it comes out > frequently – in normal conversation. I’m at a loss as to how to approach > this. We’re doing the typical punishment (taking TV, special toys, etc. > away) and it doesn’t look like it’s working. > Anyone have any previous experiences with this? How did you handle this? > Thanks!
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"My grandma had a tecnique that worked wonders for a little boy she used to babysit. The little boy came home from Kindergarten with a note that he had said s**t. She put him in a chair and made him say it for 10 minutes. He sat there crying saying it over and over again. (His mom gave my grandma permission to do this) His mom said he never said the word again. Dawn (Taylor and Mackenzie’s mom) " I don’t know about this boy, but I do know that I would want to be far away from someone who did this to me, let alone say anything at all around them ever again. I would call this traumatic. C.
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My grandma had a tecnique that worked wonders for a little boy she used to babysit. The little boy came home from Kindergarten with a note that he had said s**t. She put him in a chair and made him say it for 10 minutes. He sat there crying saying it over and over again. (His mom gave my grandma permission to do this) His mom said he never said the word again. Dawn (Taylor and Mackenzie’s mom) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I had a friend who decided the best way to deal with "taboo" words was to >tell the kid what exactly they meant, and ask them if that was what they >really wanted to be talking about. It worked for her. My kid would >probably tell me yes, that was what he wanted to be saying! >Krista >My 5 yr old has recently picked up letting out that fabulous word, mostly >just matter-of-factly. That’s normally a word he wouldn’t hear around >the house, but once in a great while one would slip out. His mother and >I have taken great care to have us and others watch their mouths around >him. >His daycare person is now bringing it to our attention that it comes out >frequently – in normal conversation. I’m at a loss as to how to approach >this. We’re doing the typical punishment (taking TV, special toys, etc. >away) and it doesn’t look like it’s working. >Anyone have any previous experiences with this? How did you handle this? >Thanks!
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I had a friend who decided the best way to deal with "taboo" words was to tell the kid what exactly they meant, and ask them if that was what they really wanted to be talking about. It worked for her. My kid would probably tell me yes, that was what he wanted to be saying! Krista – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >My 5 yr old has recently picked up letting out that fabulous word, mostly >just matter-of-factly. That’s normally a word he wouldn’t hear around >the house, but once in a great while one would slip out. His mother and >I have taken great care to have us and others watch their mouths around >him. >His daycare person is now bringing it to our attention that it comes out >frequently – in normal conversation. I’m at a loss as to how to approach >this. We’re doing the typical punishment (taking TV, special toys, etc. >away) and it doesn’t look like it’s working. >Anyone have any previous experiences with this? How did you handle this? >Thanks!
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".and by telling them they knew better words (and also explained that people who swear a lot are people with limited vocabularies — and our sons were very proud of all the nifty words they were learning at that age " Oh, I dunno about that Leah. some of the smartest people I know swear like longshoremen (I actually don’t know if all longshoremen really swear but like the way that sounds*g*)..ANd what about great writers, like Henry Miller for example???ANd poets, don’t forget poets. I don’t know if I swear alot, but I do swear daily. I think you are absolutely right about "giving power" to the word by drawing attention to it. It is kind of matter-of-fact in our house now…I don’t swear around our daughter but will say shit/shite without any reaction, but DBF does. ANd they have talks about it..He tells her that swearing is quite commonplace in our circle of friends, but that some people do not like it, so we have to respect that. And that its not nice to swear in public usually. In school, they call them "bathroom words", and that seems to work o.k for her too. So, even though she is exposed to it, she does nto do it, and its never an issue for us. I guess whatever works best for you. Cheers, C
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Perhaps ignoring these episodes and not reacting to them at all will get him bored with the word. Once he realizes he’s not recieving any attention by saying it, perhaps he’ll stop. Maybe he’s doing it for shock value. He knows it gets a rise out of everyone. Just an idea. Jeannie 
Jeannie :)
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> ".and by telling them they > knew better words (and also explained that people who swear a lot are > people with limited vocabularies — and our sons were very proud of all > the nifty words they were learning at that age " > Oh, I dunno about that Leah. some of the smartest people I know swear like > longshoremen (I actually don’t know if all longshoremen really swear but > like the way that sounds*g*)..ANd what about great writers, like Henry > Miller for example???ANd poets, don’t forget poets.
Well, yeah. Gods know *I’m* not immune. In fact, at the time we were using this rationale on the boys, I had one day when I was really on a roll, and my youngest, who was about 6 at the time, looked at me very seriously and said "Mommy, you know better words than that!" :) And yes, certainly very intelligent and literate people swear a blue streak…but for explaining it to young children, this reasoning worked well. I figure they’ll figure out the truth soon enough. :) :) > I don’t know if I swear alot, but I do swear daily. I think you are > absolutely right about "giving power" to the word by drawing attention to > it. It is kind of matter-of-fact in our house now…I don’t swear around > our daughter but will say shit/shite without any reaction, but DBF does. > ANd they have talks about it..He tells her that swearing is quite > commonplace in our circle of friends, but that some people do not like it, > so we have to respect that. And that its not nice to swear in public > usually. In school, they call them "bathroom words", and that seems to > work o.k for her too. So, even though she is exposed to it, she does nto > do it, and its never an issue for us. I guess whatever works best for you.
Right. And now that they’re older (nearly 13 and 8 1/2), when they question us about swearing, we just tell them that really, it’s one of those things that’s in the realm of ‘getting to do when you’re an adult’, and they accept that, too. But at the time, it really appealed to their ‘verbal vanity’ that somehow, by not swearing, that they were the more ’sophisticated’ ones, and that got us through that period of time fairly unscathed. :) Leah
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My 5 yr old has recently picked up letting out that fabulous word, mostly just matter-of-factly. That’s normally a word he wouldn’t hear around the house, but once in a great while one would slip out. His mother and I have taken great care to have us and others watch their mouths around him. His daycare person is now bringing it to our attention that it comes out frequently – in normal conversation. I’m at a loss as to how to approach this. We’re doing the typical punishment (taking TV, special toys, etc. away) and it doesn’t look like it’s working. Anyone have any previous experiences with this? How did you handle this? Thanks!
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> My 5 yr old has recently picked up letting out that fabulous word, mostly > just matter-of-factly. That’s normally a word he wouldn’t hear around > the house, but once in a great while one would slip out. His mother and > I have taken great care to have us and others watch their mouths around > him.
This is not abnormal at his age. Children, around that age, are learning that words have power…how they express themselves, what they say and how they say it. > His daycare person is now bringing it to our attention that it comes out > frequently – in normal conversation. I’m at a loss as to how to approach > this. We’re doing the typical punishment (taking TV, special toys, etc. > away) and it doesn’t look like it’s working.
Nope…because you’re letting the word have *too* much power. Look at how much attention you’re giving him for it. What worked for us when our sons realized that swearing brought attention (even negative attention), was not to give it attention. If they swore, we calmly said "Oh, you know better words than that" and if necessary, gave them an ‘alternate’ word to use. For example, our eldest, when he was about 5, not only started using the ’s word’, but was using it "appropriately", i.e., when he was exasperated. We told him he could use ‘fooey’, instead, and once he had a word of ‘his own’ that wouldn’t get him in trouble for using it <g>, he quickly made the substitution. What made swearing fade in general, though, was not to punish for it, because that gave it too much attention paid…and by telling them they knew better words (and also explained that people who swear a lot are people with limited vocabularies — and our sons were very proud of all the nifty words they were learning at that age — we appealed to their ‘verbal vanity’, if you will <g>), it discouraged swearing in the long run. Hope that helps some. Leah
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