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My patagonian eats chicken so i don’t think he’d mind if i did as well.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your >pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty >much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . . > Hi, > I really think Nicky don’t mind if we eat chicken as long as he get it > also
He is a Canibal. :) > Ria > — > Take a look at my parrot pictures at > http://users.bart.nl/~creation/nicky
I don’t think he’s a true cannibal. If he ate another parrot, then he’d be one. I think he would be as much of a cannibal as we would be were we to eat monkeys (yuck!) Our club’s executive meet at Swiss Chalet that serves chicken. I always thought it kind of funny. –Denise BFBS Webmaster http://www.geocities.com/heartland/plains/5470/
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> When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your > pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty > much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . .
Absolutly they know exactly what it is, DINNER. I no longer eat anything in fron of my birds that I don’t want to share. Every one of them will gladly kill for a piece of chicken. Genetically that chicken is no more closely related to your Tiel than you are to a cow. They are both birds, just as you and the cow are mammals, but thats about the extent of it.
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> They can also distinguish between chicken, turkey, pheasant and duck. > Jack
Haven’t offered anyone pheasant or duck yet. Carmen prefers Turkey (thighs and legs) but everyone else seems to like them equally well.
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> Okay Louis, sorry, I get it now. I’m not sure your analogy is on target, is > it? I don’t think parrots look at a "leg" of chicken with the same zest do > they?
I am inclined to agree that they go after the marrow with more ador than the meat, but there is so little of anything left that I don’t think there is that much difference
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Ohh my gosh, I think I just got a Flash back from one of my Psyche classes. Must – Purge – Memories! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your > pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty > much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . . >The quick answer is no unless they have seen you butcher a chicken. >The more complete answer I will give a shot at. Ethologists have long >searched for deduction in any animal other than man. The simplest >explanation of deduction is best given as an illustration. When I hand you >a pencil that is a strange color and different shape you will still identify >it as a pencil because it is nothing other than a pencil. Or put another >way, you drove to California by not driving to New York and everywhere else. >A bird is able to learn what many things are, but are unable to determine >that it is something because it is not everything else. Therefore, your >bird is unable to determine that a plucked chicken is a chicken unless it >sees that happen once. >There has been a lot of research on the use of tools by different birds to >see if the use of these tools is a primitive deduction. The shrikes or >"Butcher Birds" uses thorns to impale and store their kills. From my >reading, this has yet to be shown as an innate behavioral pattern passed >from parent to chick. But then someone may yet establish this. This theory >holds that the initial practice was learned by successful luck or successful >play and not derived from the thought of the bird. >But keep an eye open. A documented case of any primitive deduction would be >a very important find and help to figure out how the brain works and how man >is different from other animals.
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>Remember dear . . . birds are basically dinosaurs with wings. As you >will recall, dinosaurs ate each other with gusto. Not that I’m saying >you were there to witness it, mind you, but simply as a matter of >general knowledge.
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haha If I was Marguerite I would be insulted by that remark
Monte. :….The relation between a parrot and a chicken : leg is about as close as the relation between you and a steak.
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Thanks for all the great responses to my question! No, I wasn’t around witnews.net> people to steak (or whatever it was). I may even offer my cockatiel a piece of chicken next time I get some — and yes, it came as a great shock to me too to learn you could buy chicken before it’s cooked!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as >your >pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve >pretty >much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . >. . >Remember dear . . . birds are basically dinosaurs with wings. As you >will recall, dinosaurs ate each other with gusto. Not that I’m saying >you were there to witness it, mind you, but simply as a matter of >general knowledge. >: – ) >John M.
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When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . .
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>When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your >pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty >much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . .
Hi, I really think Nicky don’t mind if we eat chicken as long as he get it also
He is a Canibal. :) Ria — Take a look at my parrot pictures at http://users.bart.nl/~creation/nicky
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>When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your >pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty >much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . .
Two of my birds love both chicken and turkey. You should see my M2 demolish a drumstick!
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My Quaker is a fine young cannibal when we’re eating chicken. He loves it. jen. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your >pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty >much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . .
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> When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your > pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty > much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . .
They know it’s delicious. The relation between a parrot and a chicken leg is about as close as the relation between you and a steak. — Lou Boyd
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> When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your > pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty > much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . .
Cockatiels are smart (DOUG!!!), but not smart enough to suspect that they are eating their own kind. My two eat whatever I eat with the exception of strawberries, which frightens them out of their wits, and I don’t let them eat chocolate although they have sampled tiny bits of it and wanted more. I have been told to keep them away from avocado, chocolate and coffee. So I do.
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> When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your > pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty > much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . .
The quick answer is no unless they have seen you butcher a chicken. The more complete answer I will give a shot at. Ethologists have long searched for deduction in any animal other than man. The simplest explanation of deduction is best given as an illustration. When I hand you a pencil that is a strange color and different shape you will still identify it as a pencil because it is nothing other than a pencil. Or put another way, you drove to California by not driving to New York and everywhere else. A bird is able to learn what many things are, but are unable to determine that it is something because it is not everything else. Therefore, your bird is unable to determine that a plucked chicken is a chicken unless it sees that happen once. There has been a lot of research on the use of tools by different birds to see if the use of these tools is a primitive deduction. The shrikes or "Butcher Birds" uses thorns to impale and store their kills. From my reading, this has yet to be shown as an innate behavioral pattern passed from parent to chick. But then someone may yet establish this. This theory holds that the initial practice was learned by successful luck or successful play and not derived from the thought of the bird. But keep an eye open. A documented case of any primitive deduction would be a very important find and help to figure out how the brain works and how man is different from other animals.
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> When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your > pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty > much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . .
If they do, I don’t think they care! Every budgie I’ve ever owned has liked chicken and turkey, some more than others. One day I walked into the room with a meaty turkey bone and the next thing I knew there was Sylvester sitting on top of it, gnawing at it. I looked him in the eye and asked, "Sylvester, whose turkey is this, mine or yours?" He blinked at me as if to say, "MINE, of course." Merlin, on the other hand, loved pork chop bones the best. He would dive bomb you when he saw you had a pork chop… Linda The Parakeet Lovers’ Song: "You’re Nobody Till Some Budgie Loves You"
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Marianne Ferris-Whitmore, says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Okay Louis, sorry, I get it now. I’m not sure your analogy is on target, >is >it? I don’t think parrots look at a "leg" of chicken with the same zest do >they? I think it’s inherent in them to go after the marrow for nutritional >purposes. Am I off-base on this or what does everyone think? >Gloria >> They know it’s delicious. The relation between a parrot and a chicken >> leg is about as close as the relation between you and a steak. >> — >> Lou Boyd >I’m with Louis – he just beat me to it. I don’t get why birds eating fowl >is any more cannibalistic than people eating mammals (ham, steak, lamb), >which is what I believe Louis meant. Maybe I haven’t followed the thread >correctly, but I thought it was about whether it looked like a fellow bird, >not whether it looked yummy. >But I also think that whatever food they like, they learn to recognize, and >have the same "zest" for it that I do. They have definites tastes, and >recognize their favorites. >Marianne
If you have birds, handle raw poultry with extraordinary care in the kitchen to avoid any cross contamination. I suggest using the dishwasher or a water and chorine solution to wash any plates, bowls, knives, counter tops cutting boards cabinet knobs, counter tops that come into contact with raw poultry or juice from it. Always wash your hands immediately after touching raw poultry before you touch anything else, especially your birds. Salmonella is unpleasant in humans but it is systemic and often fatal in birds. Be sure any meat that you serve your birds has been cooked to at least 165F! Check it with an instant thermometer!
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>When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your >pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty >much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case .
. . Remember dear . . . birds are basically dinosaurs with wings. As you will recall, dinosaurs ate each other with gusto. Not that I’m saying you were there to witness it, mind you, but simply as a matter of general knowledge. : – ) John M.
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>If you have birds, handle raw poultry with extraordinary care in the >kitchen to avoid any cross contamination. I suggest using the dishwasher or >a water and chorine solution to wash any plates, bowls, knives, counter tops >cutting boards cabinet knobs, counter tops that come into contact with raw >poultry or juice from it. Always wash your hands immediately after touching >raw poultry before you touch anything else, especially your birds. >Salmonella is unpleasant in humans but it is systemic and often fatal in >birds. >Be sure any meat that you serve your birds has been cooked to at least 165F! >Check it with an instant thermometer!
Wait a minute – are you telling me you can buy chicken before it’s been cooked? Marianne
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Okay Louis, sorry, I get it now. I’m not sure your analogy is on target, is it? I don’t think parrots look at a "leg" of chicken with the same zest do they? I think it’s inherent in them to go after the marrow for nutritional purposes. Am I off-base on this or what does everyone think? Gloria > When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your > pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty > much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . . > They know it’s delicious. The relation between a parrot and a chicken > leg is about as close as the relation between you and a steak. > — > Lou Boyd
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>Okay Louis, sorry, I get it now. I’m not sure your analogy is on target, is >it? I don’t think parrots look at a "leg" of chicken with the same zest do >they? I think it’s inherent in them to go after the marrow for nutritional >purposes. Am I off-base on this or what does everyone think? >Gloria > They know it’s delicious. The relation between a parrot and a chicken > leg is about as close as the relation between you and a steak. > — > Lou Boyd
I’m with Louis – he just beat me to it. I don’t get why birds eating fowl is any more cannibalistic than people eating mammals (ham, steak, lamb), which is what I believe Louis meant. Maybe I haven’t followed the thread correctly, but I thought it was about whether it looked like a fellow bird, not whether it looked yummy. But I also think that whatever food they like, they learn to recognize, and have the same "zest" for it that I do. They have definites tastes, and recognize their favorites. Marianne
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huh? > When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your > pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty > much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . . > They know it’s delicious. The relation between a parrot and a chicken > leg is about as close as the relation between you and a steak. > — > Lou Boyd
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I don’t think they know what it is. I don’t believe they would care. I say this because I don’t believe they have that same "repulse" emotions as most humans do … it’s sustenance. > When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your > pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty > much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . .
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This is also slightly amusing to me … I must be in a good mood. > When you eat a piece of chicken in front of or in the same room as your > pet bird, do you think they realize what it is? Personally, I’ve pretty > much stopped eating poultry in front of my cockatiel, just in case . . . > They can also distinguish between chicken, turkey, pheasant and duck. > Jack > — > aka Keet Visit my web page at http://junior.apk.net/~jac/ > "The civilized man has built a couch, but he has lost the use of > his feet." – Ralph Waldo Emerson
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