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Chris, please adjust your newsreader.  You seem to be posting in HTML. Usenet is a textual medium. Thanks.

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Not you, Mark, but Chris Haynes:      Bwahhhhhaaaahhhaaaahahahahhaaaaaaaaa!!! Snort, chuckle, guffaw, gasp, teehee, chortle, hoo-hooooooooooo! I knew I kept this ng in my ‘favorite places’ for a reason. Where does this guy normally post? I gotta go there!!! Hoo-haw!!!

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And so on.  If you could turn the mime formating off it would make your posts alot easier to read — Tibbi Scott (Standard Disclaimer: my views are my own.)

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Val.>>Excuse me…but what is ART?  I have no idea but I assume it’s not >flattering!

If you would do as much listening, as you do ranting, you would have seen a nice description of ART in Marks reply to the thread. Even I understood it and I am an ignorant wolf/dog supporter. Try paying attention durring the debates you start please…     Mark>Animals DO kill and they DO pollute.  Just ask all the Anti-meat people. Hell Mark, just ask me after Smokie eats a couple pounds of hamgurger. Occassionally the flatuance will clear the room ; ) Val.>Once again, you pathetic little people must take a single statement as far out of context as you possibly can so that the entire statement will sound ridiculous! Oh ok, so that it what is making your statements sound ridiculous, here I thought is was the statements themselves…hmmm     Mark>Your ART rhetoric is becoming more obvious. Val>Again, please explain "ART." Again, Please pay attention to the thread… Val.>The wolf is the perfect family…only the strongest are allowed to breed and only the strongest survive.     Mark>So, you want humans to live by the "only the strongest" survive creed,     but you don’t want humans killing.  Sorry, you can’t have it both ways. Val.>I don’t want it both ways!  Let’s go with the survival creed here and now! I am afraid that you would lose on the one Val ol’ gal, you see in a survival of the fittest situation, you will not survive by what you think you know, but by what you actually do know. You have shown nothing throughout this thread, that would lead one to believe that you actually know anything. Just a bunch of catch phrases and rhetoric that is often tossed around during dinner conversation with others who know nothing about the subject… Val>Again, this is another statement taken out of context…the message was that we should hold wolves (as well as other animals) in the same regard that the American Indians held them when we first came to this country.    Mark >You mean like killing and eating them?  Using their skin as houses?    Their fur   as coats?  Their organs as containers? Val>I like my steaks cooked medium-well…how ’bout you?  The American Indians did not have Wal-Mart to go shopping at…there were no building contractors to build their homes…no Tupperware lady to bring in storage containers! You have not lived with wolves, yet you continue to make statements about them, this is very odd… You are not Native American, yet you continue to make statements about us, this is very dangerous… Val>ONE MORE TIME…I AM NOT NOW, NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN, A MEMBER OF PETA OR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION SUCH AS YOU ARE REFERRING TO. Touched that nerve again, huh? Val.>Now…let’s see…oh yes!  You’re insinuating that I do not care about goats, cows, sheep, etc.!     Mark>I don’t know about Haynes, but I certainly didn’t "insinuate."  It was quite clear. No insinuating here either Val ol’ gal, Your statement was quoted and understood as written…

If wolves were not endangered I wonder if you would not give a rat’s ass for them either… Why do you deny statements that you wrote when they are still available for all to see, you claim that we twist your words, the proof is still out there, the postings are still available. You remind me of a small child that is caught telling a lie, then cries because you are not being believed… Val>If we wipe out all of the predators (excluding humans), then we will see an increase in insects, snakes, rabbits, raccoons, etc., and then we will be whining about all the "varmints" running around…getting into our gardens and trash! Newsflash for ya sweety, the "domestic cats" that live in my area already do a fine job of tearing into my trash bags, till I let Smokey out to eat them that is ; )     Mark>The family cat is as good a predation animal as any. Val>Up yours!  I’ve had cats who brought mice in from the field…I asked them >if they wanted the ketchup bottle!

Why do I get the feeling you asked them this while standing up on a chair holding your skirt up? Val>The population of domesticated and feral cats cannot possibly take care of all the increase that will occur in the rodent population! So let’s start making some hybred cats, let’s see we could start with ol’ friskey there, and mate I with a cougar. me oooow tight fit. Val>Cats aren’t particularly fond of bugs as dinner entrees either! Most of the cats that I have had around, have loved killing any kind of bugs… What the hell are you talking about? Are you just making another false claim here? Have you really ever had a cat? Maybe if you did, you didn’t observe it’s behavior, maybe just left it locked up in a room to eat it’s own fecees and drink from a dirty bowl… Val>Yeah, yeah!  Everyone is stupid but you and your hybrid-breeding friends…we get it! Maybe we are starting to get through to her after all…     Mark>I’m living with a Chow-Chow that still has flashbacks from abuse from her     previous owner.  What’s YOUR experience Oh Great Educated One? Val>I’ve worked with abused animals in a real life capacity. And Mark’s experience was not real life in your opinion? You sanctimonious dullard…You should be commending him, but instead you bash him and try to make yourself sound superior… Val>My mother has a dog (which we rescued from the river) that someone attempted to kill by knocking it in the head and drowning it in the river when it was a puppy! I’ve worked with all kinds of animals!  My family has always taken in animals that are abandoned and abused…so get a grip! This is a good thing… Val>My experience is a hell of a lot more than yours! This is an assumtion, and needless boasting     Mark>You came into the wolf group to bash wolf-hybrids and condemn their     owners.  You haven’t even the intelligence to know that many wolf people read both     newsgroups; nor the conviction to go to the hybrid group with your rantings. Val>My purpose for entering the alt. wolves newsgroup was to have meaningful conversation with people who cared about wolves…not people like you! You thought you might find a bunch of wolf/dog bashers here? Val> I don’t want to go to the hybrid group because they have nothing worth hearing. Because you thought the people there would not agree with your shallow opinions… Val>Besides, all the hybrid group members are over here in the wolves newsgroup telling us how to think! Right now we are mostly listening to you telling us how to think… Val>So, I’d say I’m getting exposure from both groups, wouldn’t you? Yup, you will have to answer to people from both groups… Val>You have no right to question my intelligence! No question about it, you are an idiot…     In closing let me say, we are  still  waiting for you to have the self confidence to identify yourself and take responsibility for your comments. From the mind of, Chris Haynes REDBOW Visit Webpage at http://www.bright.net/~docchris Best using Microsoft Internet Explorer 4 I send and view mail using Microsoft Outlook Express

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