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Hi! It actually maybe what my veterinarian said was going on with my dog. My dog started going in the house around the same spots. I had her examined for urinary track problems and nothing was wrong.  Then I asked the vet what would he suggest that I do. He told me to try using Pet Stop (epetstop.com) on my flooring. It removed the odor safely and it prevented my dog from finding her spot. Thanks, Kimmy Smith

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone, > I am sending you this email on behalf of a friend who is having a > problem with her dog. The dog (Jessie) is a female, spayed, lab/GSD > cross, 16 months old. We are regularly (a couple of times a week) > havings our two dogs (mine is Casey, Collie X, female, spayed, 20 months > old) play together, so I think that with the walks they are also having, > both of them have a reasonable amount of exercise. > So, recently Jessie started waking up my friend in the middle of the > might to go pee. For the first while, she would go up and let the dog > out, but one night she decided it was ridiculous and refused to get up, > thinking that Jessie is way old enough to hold it overnight. Well, > Jessie peed in the basement. My friend usually cuts access to water at > about dinner time, but one night she heard Jessie drinking from the > toilet, so she closed the lid, but Jessie continued to pee in the > basement. Now my friend doesn`t know what to do, and I am clueless also > about this change of behavior. I don’t think it is physical, because > Jessie holds it during the whole day while my friend is at work. > Now what should she do? Restrain Jessie’s movements at night? What??? > Tx for your help. > Sophie

This is where Koehler really pays off: Housebreaking problems: "Occasionally, there is a pup who seems determined to relieve himself inside the house, regardless of how often he has the opportunity to go outside. This dog may require punishment. Make certain he is quipped with a collar and piece of line so he can’t avoid correction. When you discover a mess, move in fast, take him to the place of his error, and hold his head close enough so that he associates his error with the punishment. Punish him by spanking him with a light strap or switch. Either one is better than a folded newspaper. It is important to your future relationship that you do not rush at him and start swinging before you get hold of him. When he’s been spanked, take him outside. Chances are, if you are careful in your feeding and close observation, you will not have to do much punishing. Be consistent in your handling. To have a pup almost house-broken and then force him to commit an error by not providing  an opportunity to go outside is very unfair. Careful planning will make your job easier. The same general techniques of housebreaking apply to grown dogs that are inexperienced in the house. For the grown dog who was reliable in the house and then backslides, the method of correction differs somewhat. In this group of "backsliders" we have the "revenge piddler." This dog protests being alone by messing on the floor and often in the middle of a bed. The first step of correction is to confine the dog closely in a part of the house when you go away, so that he is constantly reminded of his obligation. The fact that he once was reliable in the house is proof that the dog knows right from wrong, and it leaves you no other course than to punish him sufficiently to convince him that the satisfaction of his wrongdoing is not worth the consequences. If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him. "The Koehler Method of Dog Training" Howell Book House, 1996 ron likes to use the heavy belt on his dogs "Read for content" Mark Shaw, Sadist, rpdb regular. "I LOVE KOHELER" lyinglynn. "There’s much wisdom in koehler," deana pace. "Read koehler," lyingdogdirty. "Read koehler," ludwig smith "I’m not a koehler trainer," cindymoron, lyinglynn. But they both spout koehler’s methods. They don’t consider themselves koehler trainers because they shock dogs, too… lyinglynn writes: > For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and > pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it. > When he barks, use the line for a correction.

A CORRECTION? You’re going to JERK and CHOKE the dog out of being AFRAID… that’s CORRECTION? lyinlynn says: "I LOVE KOEHLER," and in the next breath denies being a ‘koehler trainer.’ Is that because she ALSO shocks dogs, and koehler never had a shock collar? Pity that he was born too late to benefit from such a wondrous teaching tool, ISN’T it??? > Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is > something you twisted out of context, because you > are full of bizarro manure.

LIAR. I’ll just copy a direct quote or two or three or four or five or six… HOWE many direct quotes would you like??? Amy lyingfrosty dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article (SHE’D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU DON’T READ IT!), there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears (INDEED, SHE PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES). I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM). I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE’S A PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect her to ADMIT THE TRUTH???). I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, according to lyinglynn and avrama…. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in" With your hand on the collar and ear, say, ‘fetch.’ Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch. You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear. if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. > They include: Amy Dahl,

Oh yes, we were just mentioning some of her methods, weren’t we… She likes to beat Retriever dogs with sticks to motivate dogs to WANT to retrieve. She pinches ears, not twists them. NO mention of twisting of toes or testicles, and she shocks and chin cuffs, NOT SLAPS, retriever dogs, to teach them to retrieve… NICE stuff, huh? > Diane Blackman,

Yes, diane… She’s as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on akc showgrounds, and so that people won’t SEE the prongs and think the less of her… She twists words better than you can, BECAUSE SHE HASN’T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, LIKE YOU DID. She’s got a dog who’s been a chronic puller for five years, and she day boards her dogs because she can’t trust them at home alone. Her links page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won’t edit the lousy ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn’t know enough about training to discern good from bad information… Whaddaya thaink of that? > Janet Boss,

Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She’s as incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I’ll be throwing THAT in HIS face when I get there… She has no business telling people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread ”interested in hearing” and you’ll see for yourself HOWE you bums mishandle and kill dogs because you don’t have any IDEAS and can’t outwit a puppydog… > Susan Fraser,

susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on pronged choke collars. But she doesn’t hurt them. > Avrama Gingold,

Our Professora… She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it look like an accident. That’s called allelomimetic behavior. avrama had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don’t take my word for it, that’s in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. > Lynn Kosmakos,

Our pathological liar? She jerks and chokes and hangs dogs according to the koehler method. She justifies force because there are so many dogs to HELP and such little time to HELP them all, at the shelter she kills dogs at. > Bob Maida,

What advice? "Don’t let him do that?" Killfiles is all he writes about. He can’t talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top of his head till he’s craping toenails… He’s no dog trainer. He said he recommends cindymoron’s Website to his ‘’students” and they tell him HOWE much they’ve benefited from it… cindymron’s site has instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, pinching and twisting ears, choking, … read more »

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Your friend took the wrong approach.  She had a housebroken dog, who woke her up to go, and she didn’t let her out.  Now your friend doesn’t know what to do, because the dog pees in the house when she doesn’t let her out? First, tell your friend to stop what she is doing, get her ass out of bed and let the dog out at night.  I wouldn’t expect a human to go all night without an acess to a potty, much less a dog.  Most grown big dogs can go all night, but not all of them.  My big dog will usually get up about 3am and go. Second, your friend needs to take her dog in to see the vet.  Any time a dog’s potty or drinking habits change, without a reasonable explanation, the dog needs to see the vet.  Increased drinking and urination can be indicative of some type of medical problem.  I would confine the dog at night-in the bedroom with your friend.  And if the dog wakes her up, let the dog out.  jdoee and Stacey Dog – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone, > I am sending you this email on behalf of a friend who is having a > problem with her dog. The dog (Jessie) is a female, spayed, lab/GSD > cross, 16 months old. We are regularly (a couple of times a week) > havings our two dogs (mine is Casey, Collie X, female, spayed, 20 months > old) play together, so I think that with the walks they are also having, > both of them have a reasonable amount of exercise. > So, recently Jessie started waking up my friend in the middle of the > might to go pee. For the first while, she would go up and let the dog > out, but one night she decided it was ridiculous and refused to get up, > thinking that Jessie is way old enough to hold it overnight. Well, > Jessie peed in the basement. My friend usually cuts access to water at > about dinner time, but one night she heard Jessie drinking from the > toilet, so she closed the lid, but Jessie continued to pee in the > basement. Now my friend doesn`t know what to do, and I am clueless also > about this change of behavior. I don’t think it is physical, because > Jessie holds it during the whole day while my friend is at work. > Now what should she do? Restrain Jessie’s movements at night? What??? > Tx for your help. > Sophie

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Hi everyone, I am sending you this email on behalf of a friend who is having a problem with her dog. The dog (Jessie) is a female, spayed, lab/GSD cross, 16 months old. We are regularly (a couple of times a week) havings our two dogs (mine is Casey, Collie X, female, spayed, 20 months old) play together, so I think that with the walks they are also having, both of them have a reasonable amount of exercise. So, recently Jessie started waking up my friend in the middle of the might to go pee. For the first while, she would go up and let the dog out, but one night she decided it was ridiculous and refused to get up, thinking that Jessie is way old enough to hold it overnight. Well, Jessie peed in the basement. My friend usually cuts access to water at about dinner time, but one night she heard Jessie drinking from the toilet, so she closed the lid, but Jessie continued to pee in the basement. Now my friend doesn`t know what to do, and I am clueless also about this change of behavior. I don’t think it is physical, because Jessie holds it during the whole day while my friend is at work. Now what should she do? Restrain Jessie’s movements at night? What??? Tx for your help. Sophie

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