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>I think from now on, I’m gonna include an IQ test as part of the >adoption agreement. I’m thoroughly convinced, now, that some people >are, frankly, just not intelligent enough to have a cat. No sarcasm, >just fact. If you can’t train a cat, the cat is smarter than you – >that’s not exactly a complement to a cat…
Please do! I wish all shelters would! Some people are going to be cruel and stupid, and value material things over the well-being of animals, and some vets are going to be deluded and greedy, until this practise is outlawed….. Martha Brummett Denver CO Help the Cat Care Society: http://www.iGive.com/html/ssi.cfm?cid=5902&mid=1327
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My cat acts funny….. "what should I do?" Our answers have, and will be always the same. Take the cat to the vet. But, in this case, you can bet your sweet petunias that there *will* be opinions and 99.9% won’t address this girl too kindly. It gets my hair raised enough as it is when idiots decide to get on their computers rather then get their animals help. Give me a break… it’s like the one post someone made "my cats eyes is oozing"… "should I take him to a vet, or wait"? WAIT FOR WHAT??? (I wanted to scream on that one!) (Smacking myself in the forehead repeatedly over dumb, and I emphasize DUMB people). — Bugsy…. "If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we would all be millionaires." ~~ Abigail Van Buren
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem. > All I can say is that I agree 100% with the other posters who have pointed > out the terrible thing you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends > of his toes off, and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! > Take him to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair > some of the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart.
It’s one thing to be anti-declaw (no problem) but it’s another thing to make snide remarks and insults about others who have had their cat(s) declawed. Yes I agree it’s a brutal surgery and in 99% of cases unneccesary. But don’t go around attacking those who have made their cat go through with it. That’s not what these newsgroups are here for. She’s asking for help, so give it to her. Everyone is just bitching at her because she got her cat declawed. I’m fairly sure that’s not why she wrote the message – to get bitched at that is. Just a thought! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Eva
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>| I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, >| chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he >| jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in >the >| air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the >| problem may be?
Are you a troll, or just cruel and stupid? Neither would you be inclined to play, etc., if your fingers had been amputated. > I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any >problem.
Cats are stoic. They can’t speak about their suffering. "What goes around, comes around." Think about it…as you type, play the piano, touch a loved one’s face….. Martha Brummett Denver CO
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> I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
All I can say is that I agree 100% with the other posters who have pointed out the terrible thing you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends of his toes off, and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! Take him to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair some of the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart. Eva
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"What goes around, comes around." Yeah Martha lets just hope steve
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> > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem. > All I can say is that I agree 100% with the other posters who have pointed > out the terrible thing you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends > of his toes off, and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! > Take him to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair > some of the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart.
It’s one thing to be anti-declaw (no problem) but it’s another thing to make snide remarks and insults about others who have had their cat(s) declawed. Yes I agree it’s a brutal surgery and in 99% of cases unneccesary. But don’t go around attacking those who have made their cat go through with it. That’s not what these newsgroups are here for. She’s asking for help, so give it to her. Everyone is just bitching at her because she got her cat declawed. I’m fairly sure that’s not why she wrote the message – to get bitched at that is. Just a thought! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Eva
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in > the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
My experience also is that some cats take longer to adjust or mend than others. Not a bad idea to have it checked periodically, of course, but he will probably be back to normal before long. — "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."
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You ran out of luck. Join the ranks of folks who have mutilated their cats and now know better. > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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>You ran out of luck. Join the ranks of folks who have mutilated their cats >and now know better.
True. If 25% of cats suffer long-term complications after declawing, you can see that you have been lucky with your previous cats but the statistics caught up with you. Long-term pain and numbness is not uncommon following declawing. Many cats instinctively hide their discomfort, but when they show it, it’s with behavior such as paw shaking, holding them up, and not wanting them touched. See a vet to find out whether it’s a correctable problem (such as a claw re-growing into the pad) but often there is nothing you can do, as you cannot replace the parts of your cat’s toes that have been severed and removed. yngver (delete "nojunk" to e-mail)
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>destructive to furniture and door trim. I had no choice but to get it done >after my oldest cat totally destroyed a door jamb.
You are a totally despicable liar. Since it’s so harmless, when do you plan to have YOUR fingers amputated? Martha Brummett Denver CO
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > > chase > our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > > > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws > in the > > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody > know what the > > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the > past without any problem. > > > > > All I can say is that I agree 100% > with the other posters who have pointed > out the terrible thing > you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends > of his toes off, > and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! > Take him > to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair > some of > the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart.
Eva > It’s one thing to be anti-declaw (no problem) but it’s another thing > to make snide remarks and insults about others who have had their > cat(s) declawed. Yes I agree it’s a brutal surgery and in 99% of > cases unneccesary. But don’t go around attacking those who have made > their cat go through with it. That’s not what these newsgroups are > here for. She’s asking for help, so give it to her. Everyone is just > bitching at her because she got her cat declawed. I’m fairly sure > that’s not why she wrote the message – to get bitched at that is. > Just a thought!
Show me exactly where I made a snide remark or an insult. I stated the truth. I didn’t call her names, I didn’t attack her personally. All I did was give my opinion. Eva
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Phil, a billboard is a very good idea. That is how Friends of Animals started their pet neutering campaign. And now neutering is seen by most people as "necessary and routine" when a pet is adopted into a family. Friends started doing that back in the 50’s and 60’s and still do it to some extent, I believe. They had a shoestring budget when they first got going and saw billboards as an inexpensive and effective way to reach a lot of people. http://arrs.envirolink.org/foa/spaying/sp1.htm Here is a link to their billboard page. Yes, the pictures of what really happens are gruesome, but quite honestly, the masses aren’t going to react to a message that doesn’t have some significant shock impact. Sorry to say that about the general public, but catchy phrases and graphic pictures are what work the best. Have you considered putting in an 800# where people could call for more information? I would be willing to mail them information if someone calls and asks for it. I am sure you could get several people here to help you out. I-80, huh? That goes right by the city I live in. Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hia Tracy, > Well done!!! Another induction into the ranks of the "Claw > Conservatives"! Now, maybe she’ll tell others and they’ll tell > others. This is how changes are made. Its not going to be easy to > dispel the deception planted in peoples minds that declawing is > "minor" or "routine"; its well cultivated and deep rooted – but it > can be done. > I’m kicking around the idea of renting a billboard along I-80 with a > huge diagram of the distal phalanges being severed along with the > nerves, ligaments, and tendons – gruesome, I know, but effective – an > image not easily or soon forgotten. I’m thinking about having some > bumper stickers and decals printed as well. (takes a special press I > don’t have). Whatdaya think of that idea? A brainstorm or light > drizzle? > Its not an easy road, but we’ll get there. It will be difficult and > frustrating to get a law passed banning declawing, just remember: "If > you travel only on sunny days, you’ll never reach your destination" > (Sun-tzu). Its gonna take persistence, determination and intrepidity, > but it can be done – you proved to yourself that minds *can* be > changed! > Well done, Tracy! I’m glad you’re in my camp! Keep going! > Phil. > — > "Cats have no masters, only friends" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her > kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a > terrible > thing to do. One for the cats! > Tracy > Hia Tracy, > Well done!!! Another induction into the ranks of the "Claw > Conservatives"! Now, maybe she’ll tell others and they’ll tell > others. This is how changes are made. Its not going to be easy to > dispel the deception planted in peoples minds that declawing is > "minor" or "routine"; its well cultivated and deep rooted – but it > can be done. > I’m kicking around the idea of renting a billboard along I-80 with a > huge diagram of the distal phalanges being severed along with the > nerves, ligaments, and tendons – gruesome, I know, but effective – an > image not easily or soon forgotten. I’m thinking about having some > bumper stickers and decals printed as well. (takes a special press I > don’t have). Whatdaya think of that idea? A brainstorm or light > drizzle? > Its not an easy road, but we’ll get there. It will be difficult and > frustrating to get a law passed banning declawing, just remember: "If > you travel only on sunny days, you’ll never reach your destination" > (Sun-tzu). Its gonna take persistence, determination and intrepidity, > but it can be done – you proved to yourself that minds *can* be > changed! > Well done, Tracy! I’m glad you’re in my camp! Keep going! > Phil. > — > "Cats have no masters, only friends" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her > kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a > terrible > thing to do. One for the cats! > Tracy > > "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have > to > > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the > vet > > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > > third phalanx of the first digit > > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit > associated > > with > > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common > clinical > > sign > > associated with this complication > > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > > find an > > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > > sites. > > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, > as > > in > > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) > animal, > > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here > and > > learn something about declawing: > > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so > you > > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your > next > > stop: > > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as > much > > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – > for > > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to > tell > > you, this has been most courteous…. > > Phil. > > — > > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > > is like a rosebud in a garden" > > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > > > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no > longer > > run, > > > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful > when > > he > > > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > > paws in the > > > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know > what > > the > > > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without > any > > problem.
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You’ve undoubtedly noticed that you will get no sympathy regarding the declawing issue on this NG. Some have had some stern words. Don’t be swayed by this, you already know that your animal is in pain. What course of action other than seeking a vet can you take. Wholeheartedly agree that a different vet is in order. If you fail to seek a vet the cat could suffer any number of gruesome complications. Don’t think people here are judging you as a person. You seem caring enough, only ignorant. At least ignorance can be cured and that is what people have tried to do. Paul — The great thing about being a sociopath is that I always get enough sleep. http://home1.gte.net/pmcook Relentless spammers force me to impose this inconvenience. Remove an article of clothing if you wish to email me. > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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Gee, maybe the problem is he has had the ends of 10 toes amputated and they hurt? Common sense. What would posess you to declaw a cat that age? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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Hia Tracy, Well done!!! Another induction into the ranks of the "Claw Conservatives"! Now, maybe she’ll tell others and they’ll tell others. This is how changes are made. Its not going to be easy to dispel the deception planted in peoples minds that declawing is "minor" or "routine"; its well cultivated and deep rooted – but it can be done. I’m kicking around the idea of renting a billboard along I-80 with a huge diagram of the distal phalanges being severed along with the nerves, ligaments, and tendons – gruesome, I know, but effective – an image not easily or soon forgotten. I’m thinking about having some bumper stickers and decals printed as well. (takes a special press I don’t have). Whatdaya think of that idea? A brainstorm or light drizzle? Its not an easy road, but we’ll get there. It will be difficult and frustrating to get a law passed banning declawing, just remember: "If you travel only on sunny days, you’ll never reach your destination" (Sun-tzu). Its gonna take persistence, determination and intrepidity, but it can be done – you proved to yourself that minds *can* be changed! Well done, Tracy! I’m glad you’re in my camp! Keep going! Phil. — "Cats have no masters, only friends" Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her > kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a terrible > thing to do. One for the cats! > Tracy > "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have to > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the vet > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > third phalanx of the first digit > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit associated > with > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common clinical > sign > associated with this complication > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > find an > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > sites. > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, as > in > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) animal, > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here and > learn something about declawing: > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so you > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your next > stop: > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as much > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – for > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to tell > you, this has been most courteous…. > Phil. > — > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > is like a rosebud in a garden" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer > run, > > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when > he > > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > paws in the > > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what > the > > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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Well said, Paul. — Bugsy…. "If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we would all be millionaires." ~~ Abigail Van Buren You’ve undoubtedly noticed that you will get no sympathy regarding the declawing issue on this NG. Some have had some stern words. Don’t be swayed by this, you already know that your animal is in pain. What course of action other than seeking a vet can you take. Wholeheartedly agree that a different vet is in order. If you fail to seek a vet the cat could suffer any number of gruesome complications. Don’t think people here are judging you as a person. You seem caring enough, only ignorant. At least ignorance can be cured and that is what people have tried to do. Paul — The great thing about being a sociopath is that I always get enough sleep. http://home1.gte.net/pmcook Relentless spammers force me to impose this inconvenience. Remove an article of clothing if you wish to email me. > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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First off, welcome to the wonderful world of stupid, abusive people. You had the end of your cat’s toes amputated!!! It is an unnatural feeling for your cat and he is showing signs of problems, and possibly pain. If you have any compassion left, take your cat to a vet (like Phil said, not the vet that butchered your cat), but a vet that doesn’t believe in amputation. And (like Phil said) perhaps you need to find a new pet, something that doesn’t have body parts you can chop off to fit your lifestyle. Hope you’re happy. — Bugsy…. "If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we would all be millionaires." ~~ Abigail Van Buren I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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You should take the cat to the vet and make sure that there is nothing wrong with her paws. I had the same problem with my one cat after declawing over time he began to get back to his old self. I’m one of the few people who are not going to bite your head off for declawing. I never have it done unless it becomes necessary. I happen to have 2 cats who are very destructive to furniture and door trim. I had no choice but to get it done after my oldest cat totally destroyed a door jamb. Celeste | I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, | chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he | jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the | air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the | problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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And I have a friend that has a 4 year old and a 5 year old and they write on the walls with crayons… a very destructive habit… I guess the next step is to get their hands BRUTALLY CHOPPED OFF EH? You know… she would have not choice. Tammy K – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > You should take the cat to the vet and make sure that there is nothing > wrong with her paws. I had the same problem with my one cat after declawing > over time he began to get back to his old self. I’m one of the few people > who are not going to bite your head off for declawing. I never have it done > unless it becomes necessary. I happen to have 2 cats who are very > destructive to furniture and door trim. I had no choice but to get it done > after my oldest cat totally destroyed a door jamb. > Celeste > | I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > | chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > | jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in > the > | air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > | problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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It would seem to me that another possible alternative to declawing (which I haven’t seen anyone mention) would be to restrict the cat’s access in your home. Keeping the cat in one room or one level of the house for a couple of months, with a good scratching post, toys and everything else it needs would be "removing it from the situation" ….which is a way to train them not to do something. In this period of time, kitty will learn that he could scratch his post and whatever other acceptable objects you leave for him. Contrary to what some of the more obsessive cat people here think, cats don’t need the run of the entire house. Yes it might piss them off a little to be restricted for a while, but it is a lot better than living with an irate owner….or going back to the shelter (where they’ll be in a cage). Also, many cats thrive in apartments. One level in many homes is a lot bigger than most apartments, so space is not a problem. My cats are only allowed on the main floor of my home (i.e. where the living room is) when we’re home (and only before our bedtime)….and they have no personality problems from it. They also don’t scratch up the living room furniture. They’re very affectionate and playful cats who are very happy even though they have to live with a few restrictions……plus they get to sleep on the same floor where I keep my computers…which for some strange reason makes them happy…..they love to sleep on top of the monitors 
Another alternative is an indoor invisible fence with which you could electronically cordon off certain rooms of your house. I don’t have one but my neighbor does and it appears to work fine (i.e. both she and her cat appear to be happy).
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have to > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the vet > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > third phalanx of the first digit > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit associated > with > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common clinical > sign > associated with this complication > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > find an > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > sites. > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, as > in > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) animal, > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here and > learn something about declawing: > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so you > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your next > stop: > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as much > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – for > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to tell > you, this has been most courteous…. > Phil. > — > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > is like a rosebud in a garden" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer > run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when > he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what > the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a terrible thing to do. One for the cats! Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have to > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the vet > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > third phalanx of the first digit > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit associated > with > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common clinical > sign > associated with this complication > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > find an > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > sites. > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, as > in > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) animal, > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here and > learn something about declawing: > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so you > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your next > stop: > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as much > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – for > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to tell > you, this has been most courteous…. > Phil. > — > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > is like a rosebud in a garden" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer > run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when > he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what > the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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You do realize you are going to get quite a lot of flack for declawing in the first place… However, now that it’s done…it seems obvious that there is a problem with the cat’s claws…BRING HIM TO A VET!!!! I’m sorry, but this seems so obvious! Erin No animals in my address
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No, I don’t know what the problem is, but you need to bring him to the vet to find out & get the problem addressed. Cathy > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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I had my cat Remie declawed and unfornately it was done incorrectly (Some years ago) and the claws grew back inside his paws so please have your kitty checked by a vet. Twyla Jane >I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, >chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he >jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the >air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the >problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
problem.
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>I think from now on, I’m gonna include an IQ test as part of the >adoption agreement. I’m thoroughly convinced, now, that some people >are, frankly, just not intelligent enough to have a cat. No sarcasm, >just fact. If you can’t train a cat, the cat is smarter than you – >that’s not exactly a complement to a cat…
Please do! I wish all shelters would! Some people are going to be cruel and stupid, and value material things over the well-being of animals, and some vets are going to be deluded and greedy, until this practise is outlawed….. Martha Brummett Denver CO Help the Cat Care Society: http://www.iGive.com/html/ssi.cfm?cid=5902&mid=1327
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My cat acts funny….. "what should I do?" Our answers have, and will be always the same. Take the cat to the vet. But, in this case, you can bet your sweet petunias that there *will* be opinions and 99.9% won’t address this girl too kindly. It gets my hair raised enough as it is when idiots decide to get on their computers rather then get their animals help. Give me a break… it’s like the one post someone made "my cats eyes is oozing"… "should I take him to a vet, or wait"? WAIT FOR WHAT??? (I wanted to scream on that one!) (Smacking myself in the forehead repeatedly over dumb, and I emphasize DUMB people). — Bugsy…. "If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we would all be millionaires." ~~ Abigail Van Buren
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem. > All I can say is that I agree 100% with the other posters who have pointed > out the terrible thing you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends > of his toes off, and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! > Take him to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair > some of the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart.
It’s one thing to be anti-declaw (no problem) but it’s another thing to make snide remarks and insults about others who have had their cat(s) declawed. Yes I agree it’s a brutal surgery and in 99% of cases unneccesary. But don’t go around attacking those who have made their cat go through with it. That’s not what these newsgroups are here for. She’s asking for help, so give it to her. Everyone is just bitching at her because she got her cat declawed. I’m fairly sure that’s not why she wrote the message – to get bitched at that is. Just a thought! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Eva
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>| I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, >| chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he >| jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in >the >| air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the >| problem may be?
Are you a troll, or just cruel and stupid? Neither would you be inclined to play, etc., if your fingers had been amputated. > I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any >problem.
Cats are stoic. They can’t speak about their suffering. "What goes around, comes around." Think about it…as you type, play the piano, touch a loved one’s face….. Martha Brummett Denver CO
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> I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
All I can say is that I agree 100% with the other posters who have pointed out the terrible thing you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends of his toes off, and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! Take him to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair some of the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart. Eva
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"What goes around, comes around." Yeah Martha lets just hope steve
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> > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem. > All I can say is that I agree 100% with the other posters who have pointed > out the terrible thing you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends > of his toes off, and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! > Take him to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair > some of the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart.
It’s one thing to be anti-declaw (no problem) but it’s another thing to make snide remarks and insults about others who have had their cat(s) declawed. Yes I agree it’s a brutal surgery and in 99% of cases unneccesary. But don’t go around attacking those who have made their cat go through with it. That’s not what these newsgroups are here for. She’s asking for help, so give it to her. Everyone is just bitching at her because she got her cat declawed. I’m fairly sure that’s not why she wrote the message – to get bitched at that is. Just a thought! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Eva
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in > the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
My experience also is that some cats take longer to adjust or mend than others. Not a bad idea to have it checked periodically, of course, but he will probably be back to normal before long. — "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."
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You ran out of luck. Join the ranks of folks who have mutilated their cats and now know better. > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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>You ran out of luck. Join the ranks of folks who have mutilated their cats >and now know better.
True. If 25% of cats suffer long-term complications after declawing, you can see that you have been lucky with your previous cats but the statistics caught up with you. Long-term pain and numbness is not uncommon following declawing. Many cats instinctively hide their discomfort, but when they show it, it’s with behavior such as paw shaking, holding them up, and not wanting them touched. See a vet to find out whether it’s a correctable problem (such as a claw re-growing into the pad) but often there is nothing you can do, as you cannot replace the parts of your cat’s toes that have been severed and removed. yngver (delete "nojunk" to e-mail)
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>destructive to furniture and door trim. I had no choice but to get it done >after my oldest cat totally destroyed a door jamb.
You are a totally despicable liar. Since it’s so harmless, when do you plan to have YOUR fingers amputated? Martha Brummett Denver CO
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > > chase > our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > > > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws > in the > > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody > know what the > > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the > past without any problem. > > > > > All I can say is that I agree 100% > with the other posters who have pointed > out the terrible thing > you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends > of his toes off, > and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! > Take him > to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair > some of > the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart.
Eva > It’s one thing to be anti-declaw (no problem) but it’s another thing > to make snide remarks and insults about others who have had their > cat(s) declawed. Yes I agree it’s a brutal surgery and in 99% of > cases unneccesary. But don’t go around attacking those who have made > their cat go through with it. That’s not what these newsgroups are > here for. She’s asking for help, so give it to her. Everyone is just > bitching at her because she got her cat declawed. I’m fairly sure > that’s not why she wrote the message – to get bitched at that is. > Just a thought!
Show me exactly where I made a snide remark or an insult. I stated the truth. I didn’t call her names, I didn’t attack her personally. All I did was give my opinion. Eva
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Phil, a billboard is a very good idea. That is how Friends of Animals started their pet neutering campaign. And now neutering is seen by most people as "necessary and routine" when a pet is adopted into a family. Friends started doing that back in the 50’s and 60’s and still do it to some extent, I believe. They had a shoestring budget when they first got going and saw billboards as an inexpensive and effective way to reach a lot of people. http://arrs.envirolink.org/foa/spaying/sp1.htm Here is a link to their billboard page. Yes, the pictures of what really happens are gruesome, but quite honestly, the masses aren’t going to react to a message that doesn’t have some significant shock impact. Sorry to say that about the general public, but catchy phrases and graphic pictures are what work the best. Have you considered putting in an 800# where people could call for more information? I would be willing to mail them information if someone calls and asks for it. I am sure you could get several people here to help you out. I-80, huh? That goes right by the city I live in. Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hia Tracy, > Well done!!! Another induction into the ranks of the "Claw > Conservatives"! Now, maybe she’ll tell others and they’ll tell > others. This is how changes are made. Its not going to be easy to > dispel the deception planted in peoples minds that declawing is > "minor" or "routine"; its well cultivated and deep rooted – but it > can be done. > I’m kicking around the idea of renting a billboard along I-80 with a > huge diagram of the distal phalanges being severed along with the > nerves, ligaments, and tendons – gruesome, I know, but effective – an > image not easily or soon forgotten. I’m thinking about having some > bumper stickers and decals printed as well. (takes a special press I > don’t have). Whatdaya think of that idea? A brainstorm or light > drizzle? > Its not an easy road, but we’ll get there. It will be difficult and > frustrating to get a law passed banning declawing, just remember: "If > you travel only on sunny days, you’ll never reach your destination" > (Sun-tzu). Its gonna take persistence, determination and intrepidity, > but it can be done – you proved to yourself that minds *can* be > changed! > Well done, Tracy! I’m glad you’re in my camp! Keep going! > Phil. > — > "Cats have no masters, only friends" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her > kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a > terrible > thing to do. One for the cats! > Tracy > Hia Tracy, > Well done!!! Another induction into the ranks of the "Claw > Conservatives"! Now, maybe she’ll tell others and they’ll tell > others. This is how changes are made. Its not going to be easy to > dispel the deception planted in peoples minds that declawing is > "minor" or "routine"; its well cultivated and deep rooted – but it > can be done. > I’m kicking around the idea of renting a billboard along I-80 with a > huge diagram of the distal phalanges being severed along with the > nerves, ligaments, and tendons – gruesome, I know, but effective – an > image not easily or soon forgotten. I’m thinking about having some > bumper stickers and decals printed as well. (takes a special press I > don’t have). Whatdaya think of that idea? A brainstorm or light > drizzle? > Its not an easy road, but we’ll get there. It will be difficult and > frustrating to get a law passed banning declawing, just remember: "If > you travel only on sunny days, you’ll never reach your destination" > (Sun-tzu). Its gonna take persistence, determination and intrepidity, > but it can be done – you proved to yourself that minds *can* be > changed! > Well done, Tracy! I’m glad you’re in my camp! Keep going! > Phil. > — > "Cats have no masters, only friends" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her > kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a > terrible > thing to do. One for the cats! > Tracy > > "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have > to > > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the > vet > > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > > third phalanx of the first digit > > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit > associated > > with > > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common > clinical > > sign > > associated with this complication > > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > > find an > > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > > sites. > > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, > as > > in > > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) > animal, > > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here > and > > learn something about declawing: > > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so > you > > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your > next > > stop: > > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as > much > > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – > for > > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to > tell > > you, this has been most courteous…. > > Phil. > > — > > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > > is like a rosebud in a garden" > > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > > > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no > longer > > run, > > > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful > when > > he > > > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > > paws in the > > > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know > what > > the > > > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without > any > > problem.
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You’ve undoubtedly noticed that you will get no sympathy regarding the declawing issue on this NG. Some have had some stern words. Don’t be swayed by this, you already know that your animal is in pain. What course of action other than seeking a vet can you take. Wholeheartedly agree that a different vet is in order. If you fail to seek a vet the cat could suffer any number of gruesome complications. Don’t think people here are judging you as a person. You seem caring enough, only ignorant. At least ignorance can be cured and that is what people have tried to do. Paul — The great thing about being a sociopath is that I always get enough sleep. http://home1.gte.net/pmcook Relentless spammers force me to impose this inconvenience. Remove an article of clothing if you wish to email me. > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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Gee, maybe the problem is he has had the ends of 10 toes amputated and they hurt? Common sense. What would posess you to declaw a cat that age? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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Hia Tracy, Well done!!! Another induction into the ranks of the "Claw Conservatives"! Now, maybe she’ll tell others and they’ll tell others. This is how changes are made. Its not going to be easy to dispel the deception planted in peoples minds that declawing is "minor" or "routine"; its well cultivated and deep rooted – but it can be done. I’m kicking around the idea of renting a billboard along I-80 with a huge diagram of the distal phalanges being severed along with the nerves, ligaments, and tendons – gruesome, I know, but effective – an image not easily or soon forgotten. I’m thinking about having some bumper stickers and decals printed as well. (takes a special press I don’t have). Whatdaya think of that idea? A brainstorm or light drizzle? Its not an easy road, but we’ll get there. It will be difficult and frustrating to get a law passed banning declawing, just remember: "If you travel only on sunny days, you’ll never reach your destination" (Sun-tzu). Its gonna take persistence, determination and intrepidity, but it can be done – you proved to yourself that minds *can* be changed! Well done, Tracy! I’m glad you’re in my camp! Keep going! Phil. — "Cats have no masters, only friends" Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her > kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a terrible > thing to do. One for the cats! > Tracy > "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have to > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the vet > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > third phalanx of the first digit > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit associated > with > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common clinical > sign > associated with this complication > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > find an > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > sites. > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, as > in > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) animal, > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here and > learn something about declawing: > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so you > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your next > stop: > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as much > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – for > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to tell > you, this has been most courteous…. > Phil. > — > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > is like a rosebud in a garden" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer > run, > > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when > he > > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > paws in the > > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what > the > > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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Well said, Paul. — Bugsy…. "If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we would all be millionaires." ~~ Abigail Van Buren You’ve undoubtedly noticed that you will get no sympathy regarding the declawing issue on this NG. Some have had some stern words. Don’t be swayed by this, you already know that your animal is in pain. What course of action other than seeking a vet can you take. Wholeheartedly agree that a different vet is in order. If you fail to seek a vet the cat could suffer any number of gruesome complications. Don’t think people here are judging you as a person. You seem caring enough, only ignorant. At least ignorance can be cured and that is what people have tried to do. Paul — The great thing about being a sociopath is that I always get enough sleep. http://home1.gte.net/pmcook Relentless spammers force me to impose this inconvenience. Remove an article of clothing if you wish to email me. > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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First off, welcome to the wonderful world of stupid, abusive people. You had the end of your cat’s toes amputated!!! It is an unnatural feeling for your cat and he is showing signs of problems, and possibly pain. If you have any compassion left, take your cat to a vet (like Phil said, not the vet that butchered your cat), but a vet that doesn’t believe in amputation. And (like Phil said) perhaps you need to find a new pet, something that doesn’t have body parts you can chop off to fit your lifestyle. Hope you’re happy. — Bugsy…. "If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we would all be millionaires." ~~ Abigail Van Buren I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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You should take the cat to the vet and make sure that there is nothing wrong with her paws. I had the same problem with my one cat after declawing over time he began to get back to his old self. I’m one of the few people who are not going to bite your head off for declawing. I never have it done unless it becomes necessary. I happen to have 2 cats who are very destructive to furniture and door trim. I had no choice but to get it done after my oldest cat totally destroyed a door jamb. Celeste | I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, | chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he | jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the | air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the | problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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And I have a friend that has a 4 year old and a 5 year old and they write on the walls with crayons… a very destructive habit… I guess the next step is to get their hands BRUTALLY CHOPPED OFF EH? You know… she would have not choice. Tammy K – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > You should take the cat to the vet and make sure that there is nothing > wrong with her paws. I had the same problem with my one cat after declawing > over time he began to get back to his old self. I’m one of the few people > who are not going to bite your head off for declawing. I never have it done > unless it becomes necessary. I happen to have 2 cats who are very > destructive to furniture and door trim. I had no choice but to get it done > after my oldest cat totally destroyed a door jamb. > Celeste > | I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > | chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > | jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in > the > | air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > | problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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It would seem to me that another possible alternative to declawing (which I haven’t seen anyone mention) would be to restrict the cat’s access in your home. Keeping the cat in one room or one level of the house for a couple of months, with a good scratching post, toys and everything else it needs would be "removing it from the situation" ….which is a way to train them not to do something. In this period of time, kitty will learn that he could scratch his post and whatever other acceptable objects you leave for him. Contrary to what some of the more obsessive cat people here think, cats don’t need the run of the entire house. Yes it might piss them off a little to be restricted for a while, but it is a lot better than living with an irate owner….or going back to the shelter (where they’ll be in a cage). Also, many cats thrive in apartments. One level in many homes is a lot bigger than most apartments, so space is not a problem. My cats are only allowed on the main floor of my home (i.e. where the living room is) when we’re home (and only before our bedtime)….and they have no personality problems from it. They also don’t scratch up the living room furniture. They’re very affectionate and playful cats who are very happy even though they have to live with a few restrictions……plus they get to sleep on the same floor where I keep my computers…which for some strange reason makes them happy…..they love to sleep on top of the monitors Another alternative is an indoor invisible fence with which you could electronically cordon off certain rooms of your house. I don’t have one but my neighbor does and it appears to work fine (i.e. both she and her cat appear to be happy).
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have to > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the vet > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > third phalanx of the first digit > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit associated > with > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common clinical > sign > associated with this complication > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > find an > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > sites. > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, as > in > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) animal, > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here and > learn something about declawing: > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so you > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your next > stop: > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as much > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – for > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to tell > you, this has been most courteous…. > Phil. > — > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > is like a rosebud in a garden" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer > run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when > he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what > the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a terrible thing to do. One for the cats! Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have to > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the vet > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > third phalanx of the first digit > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit associated > with > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common clinical > sign > associated with this complication > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > find an > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > sites. > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, as > in > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) animal, > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here and > learn something about declawing: > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so you > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your next > stop: > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as much > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – for > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to tell > you, this has been most courteous…. > Phil. > — > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > is like a rosebud in a garden" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer > run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when > he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what > the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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You do realize you are going to get quite a lot of flack for declawing in the first place… However, now that it’s done…it seems obvious that there is a problem with the cat’s claws…BRING HIM TO A VET!!!! I’m sorry, but this seems so obvious! Erin No animals in my address
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No, I don’t know what the problem is, but you need to bring him to the vet to find out & get the problem addressed. Cathy > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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I had my cat Remie declawed and unfornately it was done incorrectly (Some years ago) and the claws grew back inside his paws so please have your kitty checked by a vet. Twyla Jane >I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, >chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he >jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the >air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the >problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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>I think from now on, I’m gonna include an IQ test as part of the >adoption agreement. I’m thoroughly convinced, now, that some people >are, frankly, just not intelligent enough to have a cat. No sarcasm, >just fact. If you can’t train a cat, the cat is smarter than you – >that’s not exactly a complement to a cat…
Please do! I wish all shelters would! Some people are going to be cruel and stupid, and value material things over the well-being of animals, and some vets are going to be deluded and greedy, until this practise is outlawed….. Martha Brummett Denver CO Help the Cat Care Society: http://www.iGive.com/html/ssi.cfm?cid=5902&mid=1327
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My cat acts funny….. "what should I do?" Our answers have, and will be always the same. Take the cat to the vet. But, in this case, you can bet your sweet petunias that there *will* be opinions and 99.9% won’t address this girl too kindly. It gets my hair raised enough as it is when idiots decide to get on their computers rather then get their animals help. Give me a break… it’s like the one post someone made "my cats eyes is oozing"… "should I take him to a vet, or wait"? WAIT FOR WHAT??? (I wanted to scream on that one!) (Smacking myself in the forehead repeatedly over dumb, and I emphasize DUMB people). — Bugsy…. "If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we would all be millionaires." ~~ Abigail Van Buren
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem. > All I can say is that I agree 100% with the other posters who have pointed > out the terrible thing you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends > of his toes off, and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! > Take him to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair > some of the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart.
It’s one thing to be anti-declaw (no problem) but it’s another thing to make snide remarks and insults about others who have had their cat(s) declawed. Yes I agree it’s a brutal surgery and in 99% of cases unneccesary. But don’t go around attacking those who have made their cat go through with it. That’s not what these newsgroups are here for. She’s asking for help, so give it to her. Everyone is just bitching at her because she got her cat declawed. I’m fairly sure that’s not why she wrote the message – to get bitched at that is. Just a thought! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Eva
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>| I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, >| chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he >| jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in >the >| air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the >| problem may be?
Are you a troll, or just cruel and stupid? Neither would you be inclined to play, etc., if your fingers had been amputated. > I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any >problem.
Cats are stoic. They can’t speak about their suffering. "What goes around, comes around." Think about it…as you type, play the piano, touch a loved one’s face….. Martha Brummett Denver CO
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> I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
All I can say is that I agree 100% with the other posters who have pointed out the terrible thing you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends of his toes off, and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! Take him to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair some of the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart. Eva
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"What goes around, comes around." Yeah Martha lets just hope steve
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> > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem. > All I can say is that I agree 100% with the other posters who have pointed > out the terrible thing you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends > of his toes off, and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! > Take him to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair > some of the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart.
It’s one thing to be anti-declaw (no problem) but it’s another thing to make snide remarks and insults about others who have had their cat(s) declawed. Yes I agree it’s a brutal surgery and in 99% of cases unneccesary. But don’t go around attacking those who have made their cat go through with it. That’s not what these newsgroups are here for. She’s asking for help, so give it to her. Everyone is just bitching at her because she got her cat declawed. I’m fairly sure that’s not why she wrote the message – to get bitched at that is. Just a thought! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Eva
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in > the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
My experience also is that some cats take longer to adjust or mend than others. Not a bad idea to have it checked periodically, of course, but he will probably be back to normal before long. — "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."
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You ran out of luck. Join the ranks of folks who have mutilated their cats and now know better. > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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>You ran out of luck. Join the ranks of folks who have mutilated their cats >and now know better.
True. If 25% of cats suffer long-term complications after declawing, you can see that you have been lucky with your previous cats but the statistics caught up with you. Long-term pain and numbness is not uncommon following declawing. Many cats instinctively hide their discomfort, but when they show it, it’s with behavior such as paw shaking, holding them up, and not wanting them touched. See a vet to find out whether it’s a correctable problem (such as a claw re-growing into the pad) but often there is nothing you can do, as you cannot replace the parts of your cat’s toes that have been severed and removed. yngver (delete "nojunk" to e-mail)
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>destructive to furniture and door trim. I had no choice but to get it done >after my oldest cat totally destroyed a door jamb.
You are a totally despicable liar. Since it’s so harmless, when do you plan to have YOUR fingers amputated? Martha Brummett Denver CO
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > > chase > our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > > > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws > in the > > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody > know what the > > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the > past without any problem. > > > > > All I can say is that I agree 100% > with the other posters who have pointed > out the terrible thing > you’ve done to your cat. You’ve ripped the ends > of his toes off, > and now you wonder why he doesn’t run or play. It hurts! > Take him > to another vet. You owe it to him to at least try to repair > some of > the damage you’ve done to him. This breaks my heart.
Eva > It’s one thing to be anti-declaw (no problem) but it’s another thing > to make snide remarks and insults about others who have had their > cat(s) declawed. Yes I agree it’s a brutal surgery and in 99% of > cases unneccesary. But don’t go around attacking those who have made > their cat go through with it. That’s not what these newsgroups are > here for. She’s asking for help, so give it to her. Everyone is just > bitching at her because she got her cat declawed. I’m fairly sure > that’s not why she wrote the message – to get bitched at that is. > Just a thought!
Show me exactly where I made a snide remark or an insult. I stated the truth. I didn’t call her names, I didn’t attack her personally. All I did was give my opinion. Eva
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Phil, a billboard is a very good idea. That is how Friends of Animals started their pet neutering campaign. And now neutering is seen by most people as "necessary and routine" when a pet is adopted into a family. Friends started doing that back in the 50’s and 60’s and still do it to some extent, I believe. They had a shoestring budget when they first got going and saw billboards as an inexpensive and effective way to reach a lot of people. http://arrs.envirolink.org/foa/spaying/sp1.htm Here is a link to their billboard page. Yes, the pictures of what really happens are gruesome, but quite honestly, the masses aren’t going to react to a message that doesn’t have some significant shock impact. Sorry to say that about the general public, but catchy phrases and graphic pictures are what work the best. Have you considered putting in an 800# where people could call for more information? I would be willing to mail them information if someone calls and asks for it. I am sure you could get several people here to help you out. I-80, huh? That goes right by the city I live in. Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hia Tracy, > Well done!!! Another induction into the ranks of the "Claw > Conservatives"! Now, maybe she’ll tell others and they’ll tell > others. This is how changes are made. Its not going to be easy to > dispel the deception planted in peoples minds that declawing is > "minor" or "routine"; its well cultivated and deep rooted – but it > can be done. > I’m kicking around the idea of renting a billboard along I-80 with a > huge diagram of the distal phalanges being severed along with the > nerves, ligaments, and tendons – gruesome, I know, but effective – an > image not easily or soon forgotten. I’m thinking about having some > bumper stickers and decals printed as well. (takes a special press I > don’t have). Whatdaya think of that idea? A brainstorm or light > drizzle? > Its not an easy road, but we’ll get there. It will be difficult and > frustrating to get a law passed banning declawing, just remember: "If > you travel only on sunny days, you’ll never reach your destination" > (Sun-tzu). Its gonna take persistence, determination and intrepidity, > but it can be done – you proved to yourself that minds *can* be > changed! > Well done, Tracy! I’m glad you’re in my camp! Keep going! > Phil. > — > "Cats have no masters, only friends" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her > kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a > terrible > thing to do. One for the cats! > Tracy > Hia Tracy, > Well done!!! Another induction into the ranks of the "Claw > Conservatives"! Now, maybe she’ll tell others and they’ll tell > others. This is how changes are made. Its not going to be easy to > dispel the deception planted in peoples minds that declawing is > "minor" or "routine"; its well cultivated and deep rooted – but it > can be done. > I’m kicking around the idea of renting a billboard along I-80 with a > huge diagram of the distal phalanges being severed along with the > nerves, ligaments, and tendons – gruesome, I know, but effective – an > image not easily or soon forgotten. I’m thinking about having some > bumper stickers and decals printed as well. (takes a special press I > don’t have). Whatdaya think of that idea? A brainstorm or light > drizzle? > Its not an easy road, but we’ll get there. It will be difficult and > frustrating to get a law passed banning declawing, just remember: "If > you travel only on sunny days, you’ll never reach your destination" > (Sun-tzu). Its gonna take persistence, determination and intrepidity, > but it can be done – you proved to yourself that minds *can* be > changed! > Well done, Tracy! I’m glad you’re in my camp! Keep going! > Phil. > — > "Cats have no masters, only friends" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her > kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a > terrible > thing to do. One for the cats! > Tracy > > "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have > to > > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the > vet > > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > > third phalanx of the first digit > > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit > associated > > with > > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common > clinical > > sign > > associated with this complication > > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > > find an > > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > > sites. > > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, > as > > in > > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) > animal, > > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here > and > > learn something about declawing: > > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so > you > > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your > next > > stop: > > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as > much > > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – > for > > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to > tell > > you, this has been most courteous…. > > Phil. > > — > > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > > is like a rosebud in a garden" > > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > > > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no > longer > > run, > > > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful > when > > he > > > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > > paws in the > > > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know > what > > the > > > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without > any > > problem.
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You’ve undoubtedly noticed that you will get no sympathy regarding the declawing issue on this NG. Some have had some stern words. Don’t be swayed by this, you already know that your animal is in pain. What course of action other than seeking a vet can you take. Wholeheartedly agree that a different vet is in order. If you fail to seek a vet the cat could suffer any number of gruesome complications. Don’t think people here are judging you as a person. You seem caring enough, only ignorant. At least ignorance can be cured and that is what people have tried to do. Paul — The great thing about being a sociopath is that I always get enough sleep. http://home1.gte.net/pmcook Relentless spammers force me to impose this inconvenience. Remove an article of clothing if you wish to email me. > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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Gee, maybe the problem is he has had the ends of 10 toes amputated and they hurt? Common sense. What would posess you to declaw a cat that age? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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Hia Tracy, Well done!!! Another induction into the ranks of the "Claw Conservatives"! Now, maybe she’ll tell others and they’ll tell others. This is how changes are made. Its not going to be easy to dispel the deception planted in peoples minds that declawing is "minor" or "routine"; its well cultivated and deep rooted – but it can be done. I’m kicking around the idea of renting a billboard along I-80 with a huge diagram of the distal phalanges being severed along with the nerves, ligaments, and tendons – gruesome, I know, but effective – an image not easily or soon forgotten. I’m thinking about having some bumper stickers and decals printed as well. (takes a special press I don’t have). Whatdaya think of that idea? A brainstorm or light drizzle? Its not an easy road, but we’ll get there. It will be difficult and frustrating to get a law passed banning declawing, just remember: "If you travel only on sunny days, you’ll never reach your destination" (Sun-tzu). Its gonna take persistence, determination and intrepidity, but it can be done – you proved to yourself that minds *can* be changed! Well done, Tracy! I’m glad you’re in my camp! Keep going! Phil. — "Cats have no masters, only friends" Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her > kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a terrible > thing to do. One for the cats! > Tracy > "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have to > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the vet > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > third phalanx of the first digit > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit associated > with > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common clinical > sign > associated with this complication > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > find an > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > sites. > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, as > in > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) animal, > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here and > learn something about declawing: > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so you > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your next > stop: > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as much > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – for > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to tell > you, this has been most courteous…. > Phil. > — > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > is like a rosebud in a garden" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer > run, > > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when > he > > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > paws in the > > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what > the > > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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Well said, Paul. — Bugsy…. "If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we would all be millionaires." ~~ Abigail Van Buren You’ve undoubtedly noticed that you will get no sympathy regarding the declawing issue on this NG. Some have had some stern words. Don’t be swayed by this, you already know that your animal is in pain. What course of action other than seeking a vet can you take. Wholeheartedly agree that a different vet is in order. If you fail to seek a vet the cat could suffer any number of gruesome complications. Don’t think people here are judging you as a person. You seem caring enough, only ignorant. At least ignorance can be cured and that is what people have tried to do. Paul — The great thing about being a sociopath is that I always get enough sleep. http://home1.gte.net/pmcook Relentless spammers force me to impose this inconvenience. Remove an article of clothing if you wish to email me. > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
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First off, welcome to the wonderful world of stupid, abusive people. You had the end of your cat’s toes amputated!!! It is an unnatural feeling for your cat and he is showing signs of problems, and possibly pain. If you have any compassion left, take your cat to a vet (like Phil said, not the vet that butchered your cat), but a vet that doesn’t believe in amputation. And (like Phil said) perhaps you need to find a new pet, something that doesn’t have body parts you can chop off to fit your lifestyle. Hope you’re happy. — Bugsy…. "If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we would all be millionaires." ~~ Abigail Van Buren I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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You should take the cat to the vet and make sure that there is nothing wrong with her paws. I had the same problem with my one cat after declawing over time he began to get back to his old self. I’m one of the few people who are not going to bite your head off for declawing. I never have it done unless it becomes necessary. I happen to have 2 cats who are very destructive to furniture and door trim. I had no choice but to get it done after my oldest cat totally destroyed a door jamb. Celeste | I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, | chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he | jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the | air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the | problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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And I have a friend that has a 4 year old and a 5 year old and they write on the walls with crayons… a very destructive habit… I guess the next step is to get their hands BRUTALLY CHOPPED OFF EH? You know… she would have not choice. Tammy K – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > You should take the cat to the vet and make sure that there is nothing > wrong with her paws. I had the same problem with my one cat after declawing > over time he began to get back to his old self. I’m one of the few people > who are not going to bite your head off for declawing. I never have it done > unless it becomes necessary. I happen to have 2 cats who are very > destructive to furniture and door trim. I had no choice but to get it done > after my oldest cat totally destroyed a door jamb. > Celeste > | I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > | chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > | jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in > the > | air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > | problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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It would seem to me that another possible alternative to declawing (which I haven’t seen anyone mention) would be to restrict the cat’s access in your home. Keeping the cat in one room or one level of the house for a couple of months, with a good scratching post, toys and everything else it needs would be "removing it from the situation" ….which is a way to train them not to do something. In this period of time, kitty will learn that he could scratch his post and whatever other acceptable objects you leave for him. Contrary to what some of the more obsessive cat people here think, cats don’t need the run of the entire house. Yes it might piss them off a little to be restricted for a while, but it is a lot better than living with an irate owner….or going back to the shelter (where they’ll be in a cage). Also, many cats thrive in apartments. One level in many homes is a lot bigger than most apartments, so space is not a problem. My cats are only allowed on the main floor of my home (i.e. where the living room is) when we’re home (and only before our bedtime)….and they have no personality problems from it. They also don’t scratch up the living room furniture. They’re very affectionate and playful cats who are very happy even though they have to live with a few restrictions……plus they get to sleep on the same floor where I keep my computers…which for some strange reason makes them happy…..they love to sleep on top of the monitors Another alternative is an indoor invisible fence with which you could electronically cordon off certain rooms of your house. I don’t have one but my neighbor does and it appears to work fine (i.e. both she and her cat appear to be happy).
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have to > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the vet > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > third phalanx of the first digit > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit associated > with > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common clinical > sign > associated with this complication > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > find an > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > sites. > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, as > in > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) animal, > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here and > learn something about declawing: > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so you > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your next > stop: > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as much > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – for > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to tell > you, this has been most courteous…. > Phil. > — > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > is like a rosebud in a garden" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer > run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when > he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what > the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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Phil, I am so happy to report that my neighbor has not declawed her kitten. I think my other neighbor and I convinced her it is a terrible thing to do. One for the cats! Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > "The paws are obviously uncomfortable" Wouldn’t yours be if the > bones, nerves, and tendons were severed and amputated? TEN TIMES! > You disjointed your cat, who now has complications, and you have to > ask what to do? When you finally realize your cat needs medical > attention immediately, and you finally take him to a vet, ask the vet > to find a good home for him. When the vet asks you why, tell him > because you’re too lazy and stupid to have a cat. I bet you’ll > probably take the cat back to the *same* vet who butchered him the > first time…. I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to, but take him to a > *different* vet (e.g., not the same one). > Here are a few more possibilities to look forward to: > 1. Necrosis and sloughing of soft tissue following onychectomy > 2. Regrowth of claws associated with inadequate amputation of the > third phalanx of the first digit > 3. Draining sinus on the dorsolateral aspect of the digit associated > with > regrowth of claw following onychectomy – the most common clinical > sign > associated with this complication > 4. When there is evidence of regrowth at one site, it is common to > find an > excessive amount of the third phalanx remaining at additional > sites. > The vet probably screwed up a few digits. Oh, "digit" means toe, as > in > "digitigrade" – the cat is a digitigrade (dihj’ ih tih grayd) animal, > which means it walks upon its digits not upon the whole foot. > Since you’re obviously clueless about cats and declawing, go here and > learn something about declawing: > http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm > Then, if you’re brain isn’t overloaded, learn how to trim claws so you > won’t need to butcher any more cats, go here: > http://maxshouse.com/Claw%20Trimming.htm > I’m sure you never wondered why cats scratch, so make this your next > stop: > http://maxshouse.com/understanding_scratching.htm > If I offended you, good; it was my intention – but not nearly as much > as you offended your cats by disjointing and dismembering them – for > *your* convenience. In comparison to what I’d *really* like to tell > you, this has been most courteous…. > Phil. > — > "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, > is like a rosebud in a garden" > Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer > run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when > he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his > paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what > the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any > problem.
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I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any problem.
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You do realize you are going to get quite a lot of flack for declawing in the first place… However, now that it’s done…it seems obvious that there is a problem with the cat’s claws…BRING HIM TO A VET!!!! I’m sorry, but this seems so obvious! Erin No animals in my address
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No, I don’t know what the problem is, but you need to bring him to the vet to find out & get the problem addressed. Cathy > I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, > chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he > jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the > air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the > problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
problem.
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I had my cat Remie declawed and unfornately it was done incorrectly (Some years ago) and the claws grew back inside his paws so please have your kitty checked by a vet. Twyla Jane >I had my 2 year old cat declawed 2 months ago. He will now no longer run, >chase our other cats, or play with his toys. He is very careful when he >jumps (he trys to break the fall) and sometimes holds one of his paws in the >air. The paws are obviously uncomfortable. Does anybody know what the >problem may be? I’ve declawed several cats in the past without any
problem.
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