Question:
HOWEDY Chris,
>On his website, he states that most of > his dog training was in the western US. > He was born in Oregon and now lives in > London, England. >The Yanks and Brits can fight over > ownership of this guy – don’t try to foist > him off on us Canucks. 
>–Matt. Rocky’s a Dog. > Good grief! Didn’t recognize the name. Posted a ‘heads-up’ to our > British cousins several weeks ago. He left Oregon ahead of abuse > charges brought by clients.
So, what’s the difference between Steve and our dog lovers lying frosty dahl, melaine, blankman, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn, lyingdogDUMMY, ron hardin, john richardson, janet boss, twzl, leah, liea, and professor lying doc "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream NO into its face for 5 seconds" dermer or FRAUDreck, our shock collar salesman? There ain’t no difference. Abuse is abuse, there’s no shades of gray. > Somebody (Alison?) gave me an addy for someone who’d > keep a watch for him.
That’s ridiculous, Chris. Who’s tellin folks to watch out for lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn, sindy "don’t let the dog SCREAM, tell it not to be such a moaner" as she pinches its ears MOOREON, of our illustrious faqs pages at k9web where we’re taught to jerk and choke and shock and pinch and twist ears and toes and knee dogs in the chest and throw them down by their ears and climb all over them like a raped ape and growl into their throat and bite them on their ear as sinofabitch did in "growling westie," their most effective weapon in their training arsenal. The koehler hole digging technique is on our faqs pages too, Chris. You think that Steve is any worse than lying frosty dahl or sindy mooreon or lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn or FRAUDreck, Chris? lying frosty dahl even consider’s FRAUDreck’s shock methods CRUEL. Actually, I believe shocking dogs is preferable to jerking and choking them on a pronged spiked pinch choke collar as our shelter trainer janet boss prefers to do to dogs she’s abusing. See thread "interested in hearing." > Forgot who it was, now.
It was probably our friend roo, who told Misty my methods are dangerous and to continue shocking her dog and killfile Jerry and that got her dog Peach DEAD on her Chris. Where you been? Sittin in the cheap seats or you got your head up your arse or you don’t wanna make waves? I dunno, but it’s time to get outta the boat cause I’m pullin the plug. > Do we have a member in London who can gather evidence?
You remember the fable about the guy goes off to search the world for gold and returns home in his old age with nuthin to show for it… and goes out back and turns over diamonds? >"It is by muteness that a dog becomes so utterly beyond value.
Like a confessor Priest? Don’t bet your dog won’t tell on you… >With him, words play no torturing tricks."
Their behaviors reflect our words and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE. j;~)
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HOWEDY matty,
> Chris Williams wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: > Good grief! Didn’t recognize the name. Posted a > ‘heads-up’ to our British cousins several weeks ago. He > left Oregon ahead of abuse charges brought by clients. > Not that I’ve got any sympathy for the guy,
Not that you’re not lite on dog abusers, matty. > but I think that it would be keen to find some firsthand > knowledge of Mr King,
The pictures aren’t good enough for you, matty? > rather than relying on internet hearsay.
Perhaps Steve will explain HOWE the English steel choke collar broke just like that??? > –Matt. Rocky’s a Dog.
And you’re a liar and a dog abuser, matty. Your dog has "idiopathic epilepsey" because of anxiety that you cause him, matty. That’s your fault cause you’re a Thug. I think this sez it all about you and your pals, matty: "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep The Pressure Up" sindy "don’t let the dog SCREAM" mooreon. "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens, But You’ll Get Over It." mike duforth, author: "Courteous Canine." "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently as possible. What does this mean? When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray one squirt directly into the dog’s mouth and walk away. The dog won’t be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and continue your normal behavior." –Mike Dufort author of the zero selling book "Courteous Canines" Yeah. When I preload my dog’s mouth with bitter apple, suppose I don’t get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey? Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can’t HURT it? "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." > > Jerome Bigge writes: > > I do know that hitting, hurting your dog will often make the > > dog either aggressive or a fear biter, neither of which we
> > > want to do. > And neither does anyone else, Jerome. No matter what Jerry Howe > states. > –Matt. Rocky’s a Dog. > You’re scary Marilyn. > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed individual. I feel very sorry > for her and her family. > BUT, giving you the benefit of the doubt, please provide a quote > (an original quote, not from one of Jerry Howe’s heavily edited > diatribes) that shows a regular poster promoting > or using an abusive form of training. > –Matt. Rocky’s a Dog.
Here’s MOORE lies and PAIN: "I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A Dog Is Anything But Destructive," "I don’t see why anyone would want to choke or beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get a good working dog by making them unhapper, fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl amy lying frosty dahl continues: "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs we have trained require much more frequent and heavy application of pressure (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done, This is continued resistance to your increasing authority, and the job is not done until it is overcome Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try using the stick and no ear pinch. When the dog is digging out to beat the stick and seems totally reliable without any ear pinch, you are finished This is continued resistance to your increasing authority, and the job is not done until it is overcome" If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly under the chin, say "No! Hold!" (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps because the ear is getting tender, or the dog has decided it isn’t worth it)" lying frosty dahl. "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap," professora gingold. writes: > -snip headers etc. > Yes. you’re right, I really should find the book.. they don’t have these > books in the local pet stores I frequent, where do you find Koehler? >I got a nice large print copy from Amazon.com >Richard
Please try Powell’s Books in Portland Oregon. Their URL is: http://www.powells.com/ Unlike Amazon.com, Powell’s keeps both new and used books on its shelves. You can order books via e-email. Koehler Method Of Dog Training by Koehler, W R Published by HOWELL BOOK HOUSE (0876056575, Here’s some quotes and some methods right outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:" "The Koehler Method of Dog Training" Howell Book House," 1996 William Koehler BARKING, WHINING, HOWLING, YODELING, SCREAMING, AND WAILING The fact that you realize you have such a problem makes it certain you have "reproved" the dog often enough to let him know you were against his sound effects, even though your reproving didn’t quiet them, so we’ll bypass the loudly clapped hands, the cup of water in his face, and the "shame-shames" and start with something more emphatic. We’ll begin with the easiest kind of vocalist to correct: the one that charges gates, fences, doors, and windows, barking furiously at familiar or imaginary people and objects. A few clusters of BBs from a good slingshot, in conjunction with the light line and plenty of temptations, will cause such a dog to use his mind rather than his mouth. But you won’t make the permanent impression unless you supply dozens of opportunities for him to exercise the control he thus acquires. Make sure these opportunities don’t always come at the same time of the day, else he may learn to observe the "quiet hour" and pursue his old routines at other times. With the help of the light line, it will be easy to follow the BBs with a long down to make sure he gets the most from his lesson. As was mentioned before, eliminating the senseless barking will not lessen the dog’s value as a watchdog but rather, as he grows more discriminating, increase it. The dog who vocalizes in bratty protest or lonesomeness because you’re gone constitutes a different problem. If it is impractical for someone to stay with him constantly (there are owners who cater to neurosis by employing dog sitters), you’ll have to heed the neighbors and the law and quiet the dog. This calls for a little ingenuity as well as a heavy hand. Attach a line to your dog’s collar, so your corrective effort doesn’t turn into a footrace around the house until you reach a stalemate under the bed. This use of the line in the correction will also serve to establish it as a reminder to be quiet as the dog drags it around when you’re not present. Next, equip yourself with a man’s leather belt or a strap heavy enough to give your particular dog a good tanning. Yup-we’re going to strike him. Real hard. Remember, you’re dealing with a dog who knows he should be quiet and neighbors who have legal rights to see that he does. Now leave, and let your fading footsteps tell the dog of your going. When you’ve walked to a point where he’ll think you’re gone but where you could hear any noises he might make, stop and listen. If you find a comfortable waiting place on a nearby porch, be careful not to talk or laugh. Tests show a dog’s hearing to be many times as sharp as yours. When the noise comes, instead of trying to sneak up to the door so you can barge in while he’s still barking, which is generally impossible, respond to his first sound with an emphatic bellow of "out," and keep on bellowing as you charge back to his area. Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll have no chance to dodge if you grab the line and reel him in until his front feet are raised off the floor or, if he’s a big dog, until you’ve snubbed him up with a hitch on something. While he’s held in close, lay the strap vigorously against his thighs. Keep pouring it on him until he thinks it’s the bitter end. A real whaling now may cut down somewhat on the number of repeat performances that will be necessary. When you’re finished and the dog is convinced that he is, put him on a long down to think things over while you catch your breath. After fifteen or twenty minutes, release him from the stay and leave the area again. So that you won’t feel remorseful, reflect on the truth that a great percentage of the barkers who are given away to "good homes" end up in the kindly black box with the sweet smell. Personally, I’ve always felt that it’s even better to spank children, even if they "cry out," than to "put them to sleep." You might have a long wait on that comfortable porch before your dog starts broadcasting again. When he does, let your long range bellow tie the consequent correction to his first sound and repeat the spanking, if anything emphasizing it a bit more. It might be necessary … read more »
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> Absolutely, Soup. Very shortly I’m going to turn this industry on its > ass…BIG TIME.
Hey Jer, I’ll race ya!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello Stephen King, > this, is your ceo speaking, the most Powerful Individual in > the Dog Game, proper. > You’re one of the last Koehler Nazis still standing. What I > respect about you is that you HANG dogs for minor > infractions like not heeling properly, but you aren’t AFRAID > TO ADMIT IT. You’re a thug and you know it, Stephen King, > and I think that’s healthy. > Fans, let’s take a look at Stephen King, unrepentant Koehler > Nazi in living color: > http://www.oozemagazine.co.uk/obeyorbecorrected.htm > I SHORE respect you MOORE than the garden variety hypocrites > around here and who will do *anything* including hang, > shock, choke, beat, cage, etc…to avoid being EMBARRASSED > by their dogs in public. > Except they won’t admit it. > Unfortunately though, for you, Stephen King, your era is > ending, thanks to a process I set in motion some 5 years ago > called the "Changing of the Muzzle" of dog training. It is a > WAR of INFORMATION and Resistance is futile, as the CHANGES > I have set in motion are UNOPPOSABLE and IRREVERSIBLE. The > CHANGES which are occuring involve educating the public > about dog trainers and their methodologies and EXPOSING > ignorance, fear, incompetence, thuggery, druggery, cagery, > violence, and MOORE, which, up until NOW, the public were > perfectly susceptible at being DUPED into BUYING INTO by > "experts" such as yourself, Stephen King. > But all that is CHANGING with the CHANGING of the MUZZLE. > You had a good run, Stephen King, and your Fuhrer William > Koehler taught you well. Yeah, yeah, we know about the > ULTIMATE CRUELTY of not beating the crap out of a dog. We’ve > heard all your arguments before you even make them. Enjoy > the remaining time you have left as a "dog expert." > And btw, thanks for showing up here and giving yourself > "OPPORTUNITIES for CORRECTION." > Stephen King, I’m here to tell you that you will eventually > be trampled into oblivion and obscurity by the UNOPPOSABLE > FORCE of the CHANGING of the MUZZLE. But you got a little > time left… > This, has been your ceo speaking, > have a nice day. > — > this is michael > reporting live… > http://dogtv.com > with guest star > Kwame Brown > http://dogtv.com/kwame.jpg > WORLD PREMIERE > From homeless to World Famous > Kwame Brown > http://dogtv.com/kwame.rm > Times they are a changing people, and so is the Muzzle. And > what my colleague Jerry Howe and I have set in motion is an > unopposable tidal wave of information, imagery and motion > pictures which is going to affect every trainer, every vet, > every behaviorist and every dime store dog "expert" in > America and the world at large as we know it. Whether they > like it or not. > WELCOME TO THE NEW MUZZLE OF DOG TRAINING > this is your ceo speaking… > > > Yeah. like alison > > > > Ew. Went to the site. Read his philosphy on housebreaking. > > > > He advocates punishing after the fact. > > Instead of convincing everyone that dogs are mindless, tail-wagging > > machines, why don’t you start respecting their intelligence and > > capabilities. They are completely capable of learning through the > > process of trial and error. As they have for millions of years. > > Start respecting the animals you say you love!!! > > > > And this guy is in the UK? I thought everyone over there was > > > "enlightened"? > > > > Dogstar716 > > > > Come see Gunnars Life: http://hometown.aol.com/dogstar716/index.html
– this is michael reporting live… http://dogtv.com with guest star Kwame Brown http://dogtv.com/kwame.jpg WORLD PREMIERE From homeless to World Famous Kwame Brown http://dogtv.com/kwame.rm Times they are a changing people, and so is the Muzzle. And what my colleague Jerry Howe and I have set in motion is an unopposable tidal wave of information, imagery and motion pictures which is going to affect every trainer, every vet, every behaviorist and every dime store dog "expert" in America and the world at large as we know it. Whether they like it or not. WELCOME TO THE NEW MUZZLE OF DOG TRAINING this is your ceo speaking…
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> Instead of convincing everyone that dogs are mindless, tail-wagging > machines, why don’t you start respecting their intelligence and > capabilities. They are completely capable of learning through the > process of trial and error. As they have for millions of years. > Start respecting the animals you say you love!!! > Choking and yanking a dog is a funny way of respecting it’s > intelligence! Is that how you would like to be treated.? > Alison
HOWEDY alison, Your double standard reduces YOU to pig shit. Adios. Our professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorism from the UofWI recommends scruff shaking and screaming NO into the puppy’s face for 5 seconds and the koehler method as does his pal sindy "don’t let the dog SCREAM, cover its muzzle and tell it not to be such a moaner" as she pinches his ears mooreon of our faqs pages at k9web. They teach people to shove their fingers down puppys throats to choke them out of mouthing from the time they’re in the litterbox and then pinch and twist their ears and toes and testicles to make them pick up a retrieve article. The recommend, endorse and use aversive sprays, pronged spiked pinch choke and shock collars, lock them in boxes and try to get out calling that training, and KILL DOGS when they object to their training. "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep The Pressure Up" sindy "don’t let the dog SCREAM" mooreon. "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens, But You’ll Get Over It." mike duforth, author: "Courteous Canine." "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently as possible. What does this mean? When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray one squirt directly into the dog’s mouth and walk away. The dog won’t be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and continue your normal behavior." –Mike Dufort author of the zero selling book "Courteous Canines" Yeah. When I preload my dog’s mouth with bitter apple, suppose I don’t get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey? Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can’t HURT it? "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." > > Jerome Bigge writes: > > I do know that hitting, hurting your dog will often make the > > dog either aggressive or a fear biter, neither of which we
> > > want to do. > And neither does anyone else, Jerome. No matter what Jerry Howe > states. > –Matt. Rocky’s a Dog. > You’re scary Marilyn. > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed individual. I feel very sorry > for her and her family. > BUT, giving you the benefit of the doubt, please provide a quote > (an original quote, not from one of Jerry Howe’s heavily edited > diatribes) that shows a regular poster promoting > or using an abusive form of training. > –Matt. Rocky’s a Dog.
>Di, > I don’t believe you mentioned a particular kind of training. If you > are interested in training retrieval behavior than do consider > our own Amy Dahl’s: > The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a Well-Mannered, Obedient and > Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a Day > by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl
You failed to mention your pals the dahls are proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:" "I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A Dog Is Anything But Destructive," "I don’t see why anyone would want to choke or beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get a good working dog by making them unhapper, fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl who continues: > just $17.95 at Amazon.com. > (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the few regulars here who > are either ill-tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.) > –Marshall
amy lying frosty dahl continues: "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs we have trained require much more frequent and heavy application of pressure (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done, This is continued resistance to your increasing authority, and the job is not done until it is overcome Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try using the stick and no ear pinch. When the dog is digging out to beat the stick and seems totally reliable without any ear pinch, you are finished This is continued resistance to your increasing authority, and the job is not done until it is overcome" If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly under the chin, say "No! Hold!" (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps because the ear is getting tender, or the dog has decided it isn’t worth it)" lying frosty dahl. "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap," professora gingold. writes: > -snip headers etc. > Yes. you’re right, I really should find the book.. they don’t have these > books in the local pet stores I frequent, where do you find Koehler? >I got a nice large print copy from Amazon.com >Richard
Please try Powell’s Books in Portland Oregon. Their URL is: http://www.powells.com/ Unlike Amazon.com, Powell’s keeps both new and used books on its shelves. You can order books via e-email. Koehler Method Of Dog Training by Koehler, W R Published by HOWELL BOOK HOUSE (0876056575, Here’s some quotes and some methods right outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:" "The Koehler Method of Dog Training" Howell Book House," 1996 William Koehler BARKING, WHINING, HOWLING, YODELING, SCREAMING, AND WAILING The fact that you realize you have such a problem makes it certain you have "reproved" the dog often enough to let him know you were against his sound effects, even though your reproving didn’t quiet them, so we’ll bypass the loudly clapped hands, the cup of water in his face, and the "shame-shames" and start with something more emphatic. We’ll begin with the easiest kind of vocalist to correct: the one that charges gates, fences, doors, and windows, barking furiously at familiar or imaginary people and objects. A few clusters of BBs from a good slingshot, in conjunction with the light line and plenty of temptations, will cause such a dog to use his mind rather than his mouth. But you won’t make the permanent impression unless you supply dozens of opportunities for him to exercise the control he thus acquires. Make sure these opportunities don’t always come at the same time of the day, else he may learn to observe the "quiet hour" and pursue his old routines at other times. With the help of the light line, it will be easy to follow the BBs with a long down to make sure he gets the most from his lesson. As was mentioned before, eliminating the senseless barking will not lessen the dog’s value as a watchdog but rather, as he grows more discriminating, increase it. The dog who vocalizes in bratty protest or lonesomeness because you’re gone constitutes a different problem. If it is impractical for someone to stay with him constantly (there are owners who cater to neurosis by employing dog sitters), you’ll have to heed the neighbors and the law and quiet the dog. This calls for a little ingenuity as well as a heavy hand. Attach a line to your dog’s collar, so your corrective effort doesn’t turn into a footrace around the house until you reach a stalemate under the bed. This use of the line in the correction will also serve to establish it as a reminder to be quiet as the dog drags it around when you’re not present. Next, equip yourself with a man’s leather belt or a strap heavy enough to give your particular dog a good tanning. Yup-we’re going to strike him. Real hard. Remember, you’re dealing with a dog who knows he should be quiet and neighbors who have legal rights to see that he does. Now leave, and let your fading footsteps tell the dog of your going. When you’ve walked to a point where he’ll think you’re gone but where you could hear any noises he might make, stop and listen. If you find a comfortable waiting place on a nearby porch, be careful not to talk or laugh. Tests show a dog’s hearing to be many times as sharp as yours. When the noise comes, instead of trying to sneak up to the door so you can barge in while he’s still barking, which is generally impossible, respond to his first sound with an emphatic bellow of "out," and keep on bellowing as you charge back to his area. Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll … read more »
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> Ew. Went to the site. Read his philosphy on housebreaking. > He advocates punishing after the fact. > And this guy is in the UK? I thought everyone over there was
"enlightened"? > Dogstar716 > Come see Gunnars Life: http://hometown.aol.com/dogstar716/index.html
Yeah, like our professor scruff shake and lying frosty "get a 40" stick," dahl, and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn, ron hardin, lyingdogDUMMY Master Of Deception blankman, sindy "don’t let the dog SCREAM, cover its muzzle and tell it not to be such a moaner" as she pinches its ears mooreon, of our faqs pages at k9web and most of your lying dog abusing Thug pals here: "The Koehler Method of Dog Training" Howell Book House, 1996 William Koehler "Housebreaking problems": Occasionally, there is a pup who seems determined to relieve himself inside the house, regardless of how often he has the opportunity to go outside. This dog may require punishment. Make certain he is equipped with a collar and piece of line so he can’t avoid correction. When you discover a mess, move in fast, take him to the place of his error, and hold his head close enough so that he associates his error with the punishment. Punish him by spanking him with a light strap or switch. Either one is better than a folded newspaper. It is important to your future relationship that you do not rush at him and start swinging before you get hold of him. When he’s been spanked, take him outside. Chances are, if you are careful in your feeding and close observation, you will not have to do much punishing. Be consistent in your handling. To have a pup almost house-broken and then force him to commit an error by not providing an opportunity to go outside is very unfair. Careful planning will make your job easier. The same general techniques of housebreaking apply to grown dogs that are inexperienced in the house. For the grown dog who was reliable in the house and then backslides, the method of correction differs somewhat. In this group of "backsliders" we have the "revenge piddler." This dog protests being alone by messing on the floor and often in the middle of a bed. The first step of correction is to confine the dog closely in a part of the house when you go away, so that he is constantly reminded of his obligation. The fact that he once was reliable in the house is proof that the dog knows right from wrong, and it leaves you no other course than to punish him sufficiently to convince him that the satisfaction of his wrongdoing is not worth the consequences. If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him. Some of the new "breaking scents" on the market can aid in your house-breaking program. One type discourages the dog from even visiting an area. Another encourages him to relieve himself in the area where it is sprinkled. Your pet shop should be able to supply further information on the brands available in your district. Be fair to your dog in what and when you feed him and be consistent in your efforts to housebreak him, and you’ll soon accomplish the job." "A word to the wise, is sufficient," Jerry’s Nana. j;~)
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Absolutely, Soup. Very shortly I’m going to turn this industry on its ass…BIG TIME.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello Stephen King, > this, is your ceo speaking, the most Powerful Individual in > the Dog Game, proper. > You’re one of the last Koehler Nazis still standing. What I > respect about you is that you HANG dogs for minor > infractions like not heeling properly, but you aren’t AFRAID > TO ADMIT IT. You’re a thug and you know it, Stephen King, > and I think that’s healthy. > Fans, let’s take a look at Stephen King, unrepentant Koehler > Nazi in living color: > http://www.oozemagazine.co.uk/obeyorbecorrected.htm > I SHORE respect you MOORE than the garden variety hypocrites > around here and who will do *anything* including hang, > shock, choke, beat, cage, etc…to avoid being EMBARRASSED > by their dogs in public. > Except they won’t admit it. > Unfortunately though, for you, Stephen King, your era is > ending, thanks to a process I set in motion some 5 years ago > called the "Changing of the Muzzle" of dog training. It is a > WAR of INFORMATION and Resistance is futile, as the CHANGES > I have set in motion are UNOPPOSABLE and IRREVERSIBLE. The > CHANGES which are occuring involve educating the public > about dog trainers and their methodologies and EXPOSING > ignorance, fear, incompetence, thuggery, druggery, cagery, > violence, and MOORE, which, up until NOW, the public were > perfectly susceptible at being DUPED into BUYING INTO by > "experts" such as yourself, Stephen King. > But all that is CHANGING with the CHANGING of the MUZZLE. > You had a good run, Stephen King, and your Fuhrer William > Koehler taught you well. Yeah, yeah, we know about the > ULTIMATE CRUELTY of not beating the crap out of a dog. We’ve > heard all your arguments before you even make them. Enjoy > the remaining time you have left as a "dog expert." > And btw, thanks for showing up here and giving yourself > "OPPORTUNITIES for CORRECTION." > Stephen King, I’m here to tell you that you will eventually > be trampled into oblivion and obscurity by the UNOPPOSABLE > FORCE of the CHANGING of the MUZZLE. But you got a little > time left… > This, has been your ceo speaking, > have a nice day. > — > this is michael > reporting live… > http://dogtv.com > with guest star > Kwame Brown > http://dogtv.com/kwame.jpg > WORLD PREMIERE > From homeless to World Famous > Kwame Brown > http://dogtv.com/kwame.rm > Times they are a changing people, and so is the Muzzle. And > what my colleague Jerry Howe and I have set in motion is an > unopposable tidal wave of information, imagery and motion > pictures which is going to affect every trainer, every vet, > every behaviorist and every dime store dog "expert" in > America and the world at large as we know it. Whether they > like it or not. > WELCOME TO THE NEW MUZZLE OF DOG TRAINING > this is your ceo speaking…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Yeah. like alison > > > Ew. Went to the site. Read his philosphy on housebreaking. > > > He advocates punishing after the fact. > Instead of convincing everyone that dogs are mindless, tail-wagging > machines, why don’t you start respecting their intelligence and > capabilities. They are completely capable of learning through the > process of trial and error. As they have for millions of years. > Start respecting the animals you say you love!!! > > > And this guy is in the UK? I thought everyone over there was > > "enlightened"? > > > Dogstar716 > > > Come see Gunnars Life: http://hometown.aol.com/dogstar716/index.html
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Hello Stephen King, this, is your ceo speaking, the most Powerful Individual in the Dog Game, proper. You’re one of the last Koehler Nazis still standing. What I respect about you is that you HANG dogs for minor infractions like not heeling properly, but you aren’t AFRAID TO ADMIT IT. You’re a thug and you know it, Stephen King, and I think that’s healthy. Fans, let’s take a look at Stephen King, unrepentant Koehler Nazi in living color: http://www.oozemagazine.co.uk/obeyorbecorrected.htm I SHORE respect you MOORE than the garden variety hypocrites around here and who will do *anything* including hang, shock, choke, beat, cage, etc…to avoid being EMBARRASSED by their dogs in public. Except they won’t admit it. Unfortunately though, for you, Stephen King, your era is ending, thanks to a process I set in motion some 5 years ago called the "Changing of the Muzzle" of dog training. It is a WAR of INFORMATION and Resistance is futile, as the CHANGES I have set in motion are UNOPPOSABLE and IRREVERSIBLE. The CHANGES which are occuring involve educating the public about dog trainers and their methodologies and EXPOSING ignorance, fear, incompetence, thuggery, druggery, cagery, violence, and MOORE, which, up until NOW, the public were perfectly susceptible at being DUPED into BUYING INTO by "experts" such as yourself, Stephen King. But all that is CHANGING with the CHANGING of the MUZZLE. You had a good run, Stephen King, and your Fuhrer William Koehler taught you well. Yeah, yeah, we know about the ULTIMATE CRUELTY of not beating the crap out of a dog. We’ve heard all your arguments before you even make them. Enjoy the remaining time you have left as a "dog expert." And btw, thanks for showing up here and giving yourself "OPPORTUNITIES for CORRECTION." Stephen King, I’m here to tell you that you will eventually be trampled into oblivion and obscurity by the UNOPPOSABLE FORCE of the CHANGING of the MUZZLE. But you got a little time left… This, has been your ceo speaking, have a nice day. — this is michael reporting live… http://dogtv.com with guest star Kwame Brown http://dogtv.com/kwame.jpg WORLD PREMIERE From homeless to World Famous Kwame Brown http://dogtv.com/kwame.rm Times they are a changing people, and so is the Muzzle. And what my colleague Jerry Howe and I have set in motion is an unopposable tidal wave of information, imagery and motion pictures which is going to affect every trainer, every vet, every behaviorist and every dime store dog "expert" in America and the world at large as we know it. Whether they like it or not. WELCOME TO THE NEW MUZZLE OF DOG TRAINING this is your ceo speaking… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yeah. like alison > > Ew. Went to the site. Read his philosphy on housebreaking. > > He advocates punishing after the fact. > Instead of convincing everyone that dogs are mindless, tail-wagging > machines, why don’t you start respecting their intelligence and > capabilities. They are completely capable of learning through the > process of trial and error. As they have for millions of years. > Start respecting the animals you say you love!!! > > And this guy is in the UK? I thought everyone over there was > "enlightened"? > > Dogstar716 > > Come see Gunnars Life: http://hometown.aol.com/dogstar716/index.html
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