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: Has Wombat been to the vet for a urinalysis? Nope. I’m on unemployment and strapped for cash, but I guess I’d better do it. Just to rule it out. A number of people have suggested that I used the clumping litter and disregard the vet’s advice. I’ll try the clumping litter for a few weeks, I guess, and see if the problem goes away. I thought it did when I was using it earlier, so I might as well try again. —    FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE, DESTRUCT SEQUENCE WILL COMMENCE IN 30 SECONDS                           — ranjit

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> : Has Wombat been to the vet for a urinalysis? > Nope. I’m on unemployment and strapped for cash, but I guess I’d > better do it. Just to rule it out.

I really hope you can do this, because ruling out a medical reason for this behavior should always be done first, *especially* since Wombat is a male cat.  If he’s doing this because of crystals in his urine, this can become a life-threatening emergency very quickly, even if he’s been doing this for days/weeks. > A number of people have suggested that I used the clumping litter and > disregard the vet’s advice. I’ll try the clumping litter for a few > weeks, I guess, and see if the problem goes away. I thought it did > when I was using it earlier, so I might as well try again.

I hope using the clumping litter does help, but please take Wombat to the vet as soon as possible, too.  (I’m sorry if I sound pushy, but I almost lost my cat to a urethral blockage three years ago.) Good luck to you both! Becky

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If you haven’t had your cat checked for urinary tract infections or urine crystals, I’d do that.  These problems, especially in male cats, can quickly turn into life-threatening problems. Now, about the cat litter…. My cats use Fresh Step Scoop (unscented) clumping litter — it’s got a fine sandy texture.  They’ve been using this litter for years now and have not had a problem.  I’ve read posts on this newsgroups whose vets say that clumping litter is evil, and others whose vets say that it is harmless.  If you’re worried about them ingesting the litter, you can always get one of those mats that helps the litter to fall out from their toes (available at most pet stores). So, if your cat is happy with sandy clumping litter, then I’d give it to him!  It sure beats running around the house after him, rag in one hand and cleaning solution in the other!  :) Good luck! -Valerie

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I agree with valerie. After any health problems have been ruled out, try the clumping litter again. Several vets and  a professor at Guelph University (vet college) have assured me that this is ‘urban legend’.  I’ve had no urine probs since i went back to it, I use Walmart ‘Special Kitty’. it’s reasonable and it clumps very well. I have YET to see any granules between Merri’s toes and as an added bonus, it DOESN’T track at all!!! YEA!! hbfb — hunnybunnyfunnybunny says: "God put me on earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now, I am so far behind, I will never die." come visit us @ http://millennium.fortunecity.com/treearbor/834 > If you haven’t had your cat checked for urinary tract infections or urine > crystals, I’d do that.  These problems, especially in

male cats, can quickly > turn into life-threatening problems. > Now, about the cat litter…. > My cats use Fresh Step Scoop (unscented) clumping

litter — it’s got a fine > sandy texture.  They’ve been using this litter for

years now and have not > had a problem.  I’ve read posts on this newsgroups whose vets say that > clumping litter is evil, and others whose vets say

that it is harmless.  If > you’re worried about them ingesting the litter, you

can always get one of > those mats that helps the litter to fall out from

their toes (available at > most pet stores). > So, if your cat is happy with sandy clumping litter, then I’d give it to > him!  It sure beats running around the house after

him, rag in one hand and – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> cleaning solution in the other!  :) > Good luck! > -Valerie

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Hi, Has Wombat been to the vet for a urinalysis? Becky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> One of my cats, Wombat aka Mr. Pisser, loves to pee on fabric. He > started out peeing in the laundry baskets. I think the reasoning was, > "Any plastic tub is a litter box, ergo, plastic laundry basket is > litter box." He went from there to peeing on the sofa cushions, the > clean sheets and towels in the linen closet, and MY BED. Sometimes > he’ll poo in the linen closet, but usually it’s just the pee out of > place. I seem to spend half my life washing. > I don’t have a carpet problem, because I don’t have carpet, just > ceramic tile flooring. Thank goodness. I don’t have a sofa problem, > because the sofa is leather. The mattress has a plastic cover, as do > my pillows. > (All of this is due to my allergies and asthma. I shouldn’t have cats > at all, but I can’t help rescuing strays and now I have six indoor > cats in a 700 square foot condo … but that’s another story. Cough > gasp wheeze. Anyone want a cat?) > So the damage is all easily repairable, but it takes time and money > and is wearing me down. Plus I can’t give him away to anyone unless I > get this problem fixed first. > I have three large covered cat boxes for six cats, all of which are > washed and changed weekly and scooped once daily. Or more often, if > it’s stinky. I use unscented clay litter. My vet is convinced that any > other litter is a danger to feline health. I used clumping litter for > a while and the cats LOVED it. Wombat stopped peeing in the laundry. I > think it was the fine sandy texture. But the vet told me that they > would lick it off their paws and it would clump inside. So I went back > to the clay. > I can’t add cat boxes, not in a 700 square foot condo. Between me, my > daughter, the thousands of books and the computers, it’s stuffed. I > thought it might be due to the fact that he wasn’t neutered yet, but I > had him done last week and he’s still peeing on cloth. I don’t think > it’s nerves. He is an utterly stolid cat. (Except when it comes to > hunting and killing. We live in Hawai’i, so he is the terror of our > indoor roaches and geckoes.)  I don’t think it’s an infection. I > haven’t had him specifically tested for that, but he’s only six months > old and very healthy. > Someone else posted an URL for a web page re peeing problems, at DMV, > and that seemed to suggest that if a cat liked peeing on fabric, it > would help to use a litter that was soft and smooth. Like clumping > litter.  Should I disregard my vet and use the clumping litter? Or > is there another option? > I suppose it would help to get rid of some of the cats, but Wombat is > one of the ones I want to give away. I would like to find a home for > him and his mom together. So I need to cure his problem first. > — >          Tender, smells of goat, with a deep blue mold skin, >                        dusted with charcoal.

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One of my cats, Wombat aka Mr. Pisser, loves to pee on fabric. He started out peeing in the laundry baskets. I think the reasoning was, "Any plastic tub is a litter box, ergo, plastic laundry basket is litter box." He went from there to peeing on the sofa cushions, the clean sheets and towels in the linen closet, and MY BED. Sometimes he’ll poo in the linen closet, but usually it’s just the pee out of place. I seem to spend half my life washing. I don’t have a carpet problem, because I don’t have carpet, just ceramic tile flooring. Thank goodness. I don’t have a sofa problem, because the sofa is leather. The mattress has a plastic cover, as do my pillows. (All of this is due to my allergies and asthma. I shouldn’t have cats at all, but I can’t help rescuing strays and now I have six indoor cats in a 700 square foot condo … but that’s another story. Cough gasp wheeze. Anyone want a cat?) So the damage is all easily repairable, but it takes time and money and is wearing me down. Plus I can’t give him away to anyone unless I get this problem fixed first. I have three large covered cat boxes for six cats, all of which are washed and changed weekly and scooped once daily. Or more often, if it’s stinky. I use unscented clay litter. My vet is convinced that any other litter is a danger to feline health. I used clumping litter for a while and the cats LOVED it. Wombat stopped peeing in the laundry. I think it was the fine sandy texture. But the vet told me that they would lick it off their paws and it would clump inside. So I went back to the clay. I can’t add cat boxes, not in a 700 square foot condo. Between me, my daughter, the thousands of books and the computers, it’s stuffed. I thought it might be due to the fact that he wasn’t neutered yet, but I had him done last week and he’s still peeing on cloth. I don’t think it’s nerves. He is an utterly stolid cat. (Except when it comes to hunting and killing. We live in Hawai’i, so he is the terror of our indoor roaches and geckoes.)  I don’t think it’s an infection. I haven’t had him specifically tested for that, but he’s only six months old and very healthy. Someone else posted an URL for a web page re peeing problems, at DMV, and that seemed to suggest that if a cat liked peeing on fabric, it would help to use a litter that was soft and smooth. Like clumping litter.  Should I disregard my vet and use the clumping litter? Or is there another option? I suppose it would help to get rid of some of the cats, but Wombat is one of the ones I want to give away. I would like to find a home for him and his mom together. So I need to cure his problem first. —          Tender, smells of goat, with a deep blue mold skin,                        dusted with charcoal.

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: Has Wombat been to the vet for a urinalysis? Nope. I’m on unemployment and strapped for cash, but I guess I’d better do it. Just to rule it out. A number of people have suggested that I used the clumping litter and disregard the vet’s advice. I’ll try the clumping litter for a few weeks, I guess, and see if the problem goes away. I thought it did when I was using it earlier, so I might as well try again. —    FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE, DESTRUCT SEQUENCE WILL COMMENCE IN 30 SECONDS                           — ranjit

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> : Has Wombat been to the vet for a urinalysis? > Nope. I’m on unemployment and strapped for cash, but I guess I’d > better do it. Just to rule it out.

I really hope you can do this, because ruling out a medical reason for this behavior should always be done first, *especially* since Wombat is a male cat.  If he’s doing this because of crystals in his urine, this can become a life-threatening emergency very quickly, even if he’s been doing this for days/weeks. > A number of people have suggested that I used the clumping litter and > disregard the vet’s advice. I’ll try the clumping litter for a few > weeks, I guess, and see if the problem goes away. I thought it did > when I was using it earlier, so I might as well try again.

I hope using the clumping litter does help, but please take Wombat to the vet as soon as possible, too.  (I’m sorry if I sound pushy, but I almost lost my cat to a urethral blockage three years ago.) Good luck to you both! Becky

Response:

If you haven’t had your cat checked for urinary tract infections or urine crystals, I’d do that.  These problems, especially in male cats, can quickly turn into life-threatening problems. Now, about the cat litter…. My cats use Fresh Step Scoop (unscented) clumping litter — it’s got a fine sandy texture.  They’ve been using this litter for years now and have not had a problem.  I’ve read posts on this newsgroups whose vets say that clumping litter is evil, and others whose vets say that it is harmless.  If you’re worried about them ingesting the litter, you can always get one of those mats that helps the litter to fall out from their toes (available at most pet stores). So, if your cat is happy with sandy clumping litter, then I’d give it to him!  It sure beats running around the house after him, rag in one hand and cleaning solution in the other!  :) Good luck! -Valerie

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I agree with valerie. After any health problems have been ruled out, try the clumping litter again. Several vets and  a professor at Guelph University (vet college) have assured me that this is ‘urban legend’.  I’ve had no urine probs since i went back to it, I use Walmart ‘Special Kitty’. it’s reasonable and it clumps very well. I have YET to see any granules between Merri’s toes and as an added bonus, it DOESN’T track at all!!! YEA!! hbfb — hunnybunnyfunnybunny says: "God put me on earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now, I am so far behind, I will never die." come visit us @ http://millennium.fortunecity.com/treearbor/834 > If you haven’t had your cat checked for urinary tract infections or urine > crystals, I’d do that.  These problems, especially in

male cats, can quickly > turn into life-threatening problems. > Now, about the cat litter…. > My cats use Fresh Step Scoop (unscented) clumping

litter — it’s got a fine > sandy texture.  They’ve been using this litter for

years now and have not > had a problem.  I’ve read posts on this newsgroups whose vets say that > clumping litter is evil, and others whose vets say

that it is harmless.  If > you’re worried about them ingesting the litter, you

can always get one of > those mats that helps the litter to fall out from

their toes (available at > most pet stores). > So, if your cat is happy with sandy clumping litter, then I’d give it to > him!  It sure beats running around the house after

him, rag in one hand and – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> cleaning solution in the other!  :) > Good luck! > -Valerie

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Hi, Has Wombat been to the vet for a urinalysis? Becky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> One of my cats, Wombat aka Mr. Pisser, loves to pee on fabric. He > started out peeing in the laundry baskets. I think the reasoning was, > "Any plastic tub is a litter box, ergo, plastic laundry basket is > litter box." He went from there to peeing on the sofa cushions, the > clean sheets and towels in the linen closet, and MY BED. Sometimes > he’ll poo in the linen closet, but usually it’s just the pee out of > place. I seem to spend half my life washing. > I don’t have a carpet problem, because I don’t have carpet, just > ceramic tile flooring. Thank goodness. I don’t have a sofa problem, > because the sofa is leather. The mattress has a plastic cover, as do > my pillows. > (All of this is due to my allergies and asthma. I shouldn’t have cats > at all, but I can’t help rescuing strays and now I have six indoor > cats in a 700 square foot condo … but that’s another story. Cough > gasp wheeze. Anyone want a cat?) > So the damage is all easily repairable, but it takes time and money > and is wearing me down. Plus I can’t give him away to anyone unless I > get this problem fixed first. > I have three large covered cat boxes for six cats, all of which are > washed and changed weekly and scooped once daily. Or more often, if > it’s stinky. I use unscented clay litter. My vet is convinced that any > other litter is a danger to feline health. I used clumping litter for > a while and the cats LOVED it. Wombat stopped peeing in the laundry. I > think it was the fine sandy texture. But the vet told me that they > would lick it off their paws and it would clump inside. So I went back > to the clay. > I can’t add cat boxes, not in a 700 square foot condo. Between me, my > daughter, the thousands of books and the computers, it’s stuffed. I > thought it might be due to the fact that he wasn’t neutered yet, but I > had him done last week and he’s still peeing on cloth. I don’t think > it’s nerves. He is an utterly stolid cat. (Except when it comes to > hunting and killing. We live in Hawai’i, so he is the terror of our > indoor roaches and geckoes.)  I don’t think it’s an infection. I > haven’t had him specifically tested for that, but he’s only six months > old and very healthy. > Someone else posted an URL for a web page re peeing problems, at DMV, > and that seemed to suggest that if a cat liked peeing on fabric, it > would help to use a litter that was soft and smooth. Like clumping > litter.  Should I disregard my vet and use the clumping litter? Or > is there another option? > I suppose it would help to get rid of some of the cats, but Wombat is > one of the ones I want to give away. I would like to find a home for > him and his mom together. So I need to cure his problem first. > — >          Tender, smells of goat, with a deep blue mold skin, >                        dusted with charcoal.

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One of my cats, Wombat aka Mr. Pisser, loves to pee on fabric. He started out peeing in the laundry baskets. I think the reasoning was, "Any plastic tub is a litter box, ergo, plastic laundry basket is litter box." He went from there to peeing on the sofa cushions, the clean sheets and towels in the linen closet, and MY BED. Sometimes he’ll poo in the linen closet, but usually it’s just the pee out of place. I seem to spend half my life washing. I don’t have a carpet problem, because I don’t have carpet, just ceramic tile flooring. Thank goodness. I don’t have a sofa problem, because the sofa is leather. The mattress has a plastic cover, as do my pillows. (All of this is due to my allergies and asthma. I shouldn’t have cats at all, but I can’t help rescuing strays and now I have six indoor cats in a 700 square foot condo … but that’s another story. Cough gasp wheeze. Anyone want a cat?) So the damage is all easily repairable, but it takes time and money and is wearing me down. Plus I can’t give him away to anyone unless I get this problem fixed first. I have three large covered cat boxes for six cats, all of which are washed and changed weekly and scooped once daily. Or more often, if it’s stinky. I use unscented clay litter. My vet is convinced that any other litter is a danger to feline health. I used clumping litter for a while and the cats LOVED it. Wombat stopped peeing in the laundry. I think it was the fine sandy texture. But the vet told me that they would lick it off their paws and it would clump inside. So I went back to the clay. I can’t add cat boxes, not in a 700 square foot condo. Between me, my daughter, the thousands of books and the computers, it’s stuffed. I thought it might be due to the fact that he wasn’t neutered yet, but I had him done last week and he’s still peeing on cloth. I don’t think it’s nerves. He is an utterly stolid cat. (Except when it comes to hunting and killing. We live in Hawai’i, so he is the terror of our indoor roaches and geckoes.)  I don’t think it’s an infection. I haven’t had him specifically tested for that, but he’s only six months old and very healthy. Someone else posted an URL for a web page re peeing problems, at DMV, and that seemed to suggest that if a cat liked peeing on fabric, it would help to use a litter that was soft and smooth. Like clumping litter.  Should I disregard my vet and use the clumping litter? Or is there another option? I suppose it would help to get rid of some of the cats, but Wombat is one of the ones I want to give away. I would like to find a home for him and his mom together. So I need to cure his problem first. —          Tender, smells of goat, with a deep blue mold skin,                        dusted with charcoal.

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: Has Wombat been to the vet for a urinalysis? Nope. I’m on unemployment and strapped for cash, but I guess I’d better do it. Just to rule it out. A number of people have suggested that I used the clumping litter and disregard the vet’s advice. I’ll try the clumping litter for a few weeks, I guess, and see if the problem goes away. I thought it did when I was using it earlier, so I might as well try again. —    FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE, DESTRUCT SEQUENCE WILL COMMENCE IN 30 SECONDS                           — ranjit

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> : Has Wombat been to the vet for a urinalysis? > Nope. I’m on unemployment and strapped for cash, but I guess I’d > better do it. Just to rule it out.

I really hope you can do this, because ruling out a medical reason for this behavior should always be done first, *especially* since Wombat is a male cat.  If he’s doing this because of crystals in his urine, this can become a life-threatening emergency very quickly, even if he’s been doing this for days/weeks. > A number of people have suggested that I used the clumping litter and > disregard the vet’s advice. I’ll try the clumping litter for a few > weeks, I guess, and see if the problem goes away. I thought it did > when I was using it earlier, so I might as well try again.

I hope using the clumping litter does help, but please take Wombat to the vet as soon as possible, too.  (I’m sorry if I sound pushy, but I almost lost my cat to a urethral blockage three years ago.) Good luck to you both! Becky

Response:

If you haven’t had your cat checked for urinary tract infections or urine crystals, I’d do that.  These problems, especially in male cats, can quickly turn into life-threatening problems. Now, about the cat litter…. My cats use Fresh Step Scoop (unscented) clumping litter — it’s got a fine sandy texture.  They’ve been using this litter for years now and have not had a problem.  I’ve read posts on this newsgroups whose vets say that clumping litter is evil, and others whose vets say that it is harmless.  If you’re worried about them ingesting the litter, you can always get one of those mats that helps the litter to fall out from their toes (available at most pet stores). So, if your cat is happy with sandy clumping litter, then I’d give it to him!  It sure beats running around the house after him, rag in one hand and cleaning solution in the other!  :) Good luck! -Valerie

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I agree with valerie. After any health problems have been ruled out, try the clumping litter again. Several vets and  a professor at Guelph University (vet college) have assured me that this is ‘urban legend’.  I’ve had no urine probs since i went back to it, I use Walmart ‘Special Kitty’. it’s reasonable and it clumps very well. I have YET to see any granules between Merri’s toes and as an added bonus, it DOESN’T track at all!!! YEA!! hbfb — hunnybunnyfunnybunny says: "God put me on earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now, I am so far behind, I will never die." come visit us @ http://millennium.fortunecity.com/treearbor/834 > If you haven’t had your cat checked for urinary tract infections or urine > crystals, I’d do that.  These problems, especially in

male cats, can quickly > turn into life-threatening problems. > Now, about the cat litter…. > My cats use Fresh Step Scoop (unscented) clumping

litter — it’s got a fine > sandy texture.  They’ve been using this litter for

years now and have not > had a problem.  I’ve read posts on this newsgroups whose vets say that > clumping litter is evil, and others whose vets say

that it is harmless.  If > you’re worried about them ingesting the litter, you

can always get one of > those mats that helps the litter to fall out from

their toes (available at > most pet stores). > So, if your cat is happy with sandy clumping litter, then I’d give it to > him!  It sure beats running around the house after

him, rag in one hand and – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> cleaning solution in the other!  :) > Good luck! > -Valerie

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Hi, Has Wombat been to the vet for a urinalysis? Becky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> One of my cats, Wombat aka Mr. Pisser, loves to pee on fabric. He > started out peeing in the laundry baskets. I think the reasoning was, > "Any plastic tub is a litter box, ergo, plastic laundry basket is > litter box." He went from there to peeing on the sofa cushions, the > clean sheets and towels in the linen closet, and MY BED. Sometimes > he’ll poo in the linen closet, but usually it’s just the pee out of > place. I seem to spend half my life washing. > I don’t have a carpet problem, because I don’t have carpet, just > ceramic tile flooring. Thank goodness. I don’t have a sofa problem, > because the sofa is leather. The mattress has a plastic cover, as do > my pillows. > (All of this is due to my allergies and asthma. I shouldn’t have cats > at all, but I can’t help rescuing strays and now I have six indoor > cats in a 700 square foot condo … but that’s another story. Cough > gasp wheeze. Anyone want a cat?) > So the damage is all easily repairable, but it takes time and money > and is wearing me down. Plus I can’t give him away to anyone unless I > get this problem fixed first. > I have three large covered cat boxes for six cats, all of which are > washed and changed weekly and scooped once daily. Or more often, if > it’s stinky. I use unscented clay litter. My vet is convinced that any > other litter is a danger to feline health. I used clumping litter for > a while and the cats LOVED it. Wombat stopped peeing in the laundry. I > think it was the fine sandy texture. But the vet told me that they > would lick it off their paws and it would clump inside. So I went back > to the clay. > I can’t add cat boxes, not in a 700 square foot condo. Between me, my > daughter, the thousands of books and the computers, it’s stuffed. I > thought it might be due to the fact that he wasn’t neutered yet, but I > had him done last week and he’s still peeing on cloth. I don’t think > it’s nerves. He is an utterly stolid cat. (Except when it comes to > hunting and killing. We live in Hawai’i, so he is the terror of our > indoor roaches and geckoes.)  I don’t think it’s an infection. I > haven’t had him specifically tested for that, but he’s only six months > old and very healthy. > Someone else posted an URL for a web page re peeing problems, at DMV, > and that seemed to suggest that if a cat liked peeing on fabric, it > would help to use a litter that was soft and smooth. Like clumping > litter.  Should I disregard my vet and use the clumping litter? Or > is there another option? > I suppose it would help to get rid of some of the cats, but Wombat is > one of the ones I want to give away. I would like to find a home for > him and his mom together. So I need to cure his problem first. > — >          Tender, smells of goat, with a deep blue mold skin, >                        dusted with charcoal.

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One of my cats, Wombat aka Mr. Pisser, loves to pee on fabric. He started out peeing in the laundry baskets. I think the reasoning was, "Any plastic tub is a litter box, ergo, plastic laundry basket is litter box." He went from there to peeing on the sofa cushions, the clean sheets and towels in the linen closet, and MY BED. Sometimes he’ll poo in the linen closet, but usually it’s just the pee out of place. I seem to spend half my life washing. I don’t have a carpet problem, because I don’t have carpet, just ceramic tile flooring. Thank goodness. I don’t have a sofa problem, because the sofa is leather. The mattress has a plastic cover, as do my pillows. (All of this is due to my allergies and asthma. I shouldn’t have cats at all, but I can’t help rescuing strays and now I have six indoor cats in a 700 square foot condo … but that’s another story. Cough gasp wheeze. Anyone want a cat?) So the damage is all easily repairable, but it takes time and money and is wearing me down. Plus I can’t give him away to anyone unless I get this problem fixed first. I have three large covered cat boxes for six cats, all of which are washed and changed weekly and scooped once daily. Or more often, if it’s stinky. I use unscented clay litter. My vet is convinced that any other litter is a danger to feline health. I used clumping litter for a while and the cats LOVED it. Wombat stopped peeing in the laundry. I think it was the fine sandy texture. But the vet told me that they would lick it off their paws and it would clump inside. So I went back to the clay. I can’t add cat boxes, not in a 700 square foot condo. Between me, my daughter, the thousands of books and the computers, it’s stuffed. I thought it might be due to the fact that he wasn’t neutered yet, but I had him done last week and he’s still peeing on cloth. I don’t think it’s nerves. He is an utterly stolid cat. (Except when it comes to hunting and killing. We live in Hawai’i, so he is the terror of our indoor roaches and geckoes.)  I don’t think it’s an infection. I haven’t had him specifically tested for that, but he’s only six months old and very healthy. Someone else posted an URL for a web page re peeing problems, at DMV, and that seemed to suggest that if a cat liked peeing on fabric, it would help to use a litter that was soft and smooth. Like clumping litter.  Should I disregard my vet and use the clumping litter? Or is there another option? I suppose it would help to get rid of some of the cats, but Wombat is one of the ones I want to give away. I would like to find a home for him and his mom together. So I need to cure his problem first. —          Tender, smells of goat, with a deep blue mold skin,                        dusted with charcoal.

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