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Hi All: Not long ago I transplanted 8 adult bullfrogs in my newly constructed 1/2 acre pond. At the time I did not know how to determine the gender of a bullfrog, but after investigation, I found out I had 1 female and 7 males. I’ve had real problems keeping the frogs. I fear that all but one (a male) have fallen victim to predation. I don’t have much cover in my new pond, and this last bullfrog has found refuge in a french drain pipe from my in ground swimming pool that discharges into the pond. However, I think maybe the female bullfrog may have laid eggs which produced a lot of tadpoles. I never saw the egg mass, but I understand they typically hatch in about four days if the weather is warm. Here in West Virginia we’ve had plenty of hot weather lately! Anyway, I’m seeing hords of large tadpoles in my pond now. They are about 2 inches in length and have a very distinct white underbelly. I also note how voracious they are at eating. Many of them actually break water nipping at things on the surface. They also nibble constantly on what plant life I do have around the pond. I’m wondering if they are indeed bullfrog tadpoles? I have one or two green frogs in my pond, but I’m not sure if their tadpoles would be so large shortly after hatching. Does anyone have an opinion on the species of these tadpoles or a method to determine what they are? Thanks. I’ve included a pic of one of my bullfrogs and of my pond taken shortly after it filled during the winter.
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Well, large with a white tummy describes bullfrog tadpoles. I’m not sure what the other frog’s taddies look like, since the green frog looks a lot like the bullfrog. Also don’t know how long it takes them to get from egg to two inches. It could be a territory issue with the male bullfrogs, one ran off the rest. (If one was much larger than the rest, the other could have been eaten instead of run off…) btb the picture did not show up (at least on AOL) and as this isn’t a binary group – can you throw it up on a web page? Here is a web page that has a lot of links and may lead to some more information for you. http://www.teleport.com/~dstroy/lists.html Let us know what you find out! k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Well, large with a white tummy describes bullfrog tadpoles. >I’m not sure what the other frog’s taddies look like, since the green frog >looks a lot like the bullfrog. >Also don’t know how long it takes them to get from egg to two inches. >It could be a territory issue with the male bullfrogs, one ran off the rest. >(If one was much larger than the rest, the other could have been eaten instead >of run off…) >btb the picture did not show up (at least on AOL) and as this isn’t a binary >group – can you throw it up on a web page? >Here is a web page that has a lot of links and may lead to some more >information for you. >http://www.teleport.com/~dstroy/lists.html >Let us know what you find out! >k30 and the water gardening labradors >REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE >http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
Hey, thanks for the reply! I’m hoping real hard they are indeed bullfrog tadpoles. The pictures I posted appeared to have come in as a different file, but with the same post title. After posting them, I downloaded them from the newsgroup and they worked just fine. Have you viewed pictures from this newsgroup before?
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Cliff wrote << Have you viewed pictures from this newsgroup before? >> I have not, but then I think I blocked the binary feature on AOL. Our computer is in the kitchen/diningroom/livingroom area of our house and I can’t take the chance of opening a picture that would cause me to swoon and thrill the teenage boys that hang out at our house…. 
k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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>Cliff wrote << Have you >viewed pictures from this newsgroup before? >> >I have not, but then I think I blocked the binary feature on AOL. >Our computer is in the kitchen/diningroom/livingroom area of our >house and I can’t take the chance of opening a picture that would cause me to >swoon and thrill the teenage boys that hang out at our house….
That was some binary file, took awhile to download out here in the boonies where phone hookups are terrible and slow. Very pretty fish pond, nice frog, too. Most folks would not like to have binary files posted in this group. There are groups for binary files, all (that I know of) beginning with "alt." Like alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.blondes… I think the appropriate group would be alt.binaries.pictures.gardens or something like that. You post to the binary group, then put a "pointer" in this one. Problem with binary groups is, just like K30 says, they are not moderated or restricted, lots of inappropriate material in groups with lables like "alt.binaries.pictures.astro". Heck, this group gets inapropriate materials, so does the other one I go to a lot "sci.bio.fisheries". Brett – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->k30 and the water gardening labradors >REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE >http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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>Well, large with a white tummy describes bullfrog tadpoles. >I’m not sure what the other frog’s taddies look like, since the green frog >looks a lot like the bullfrog. >Also don’t know how long it takes them to get from egg to two inches. >It could be a territory issue with the male bullfrogs, one ran off the rest. >(If one was much larger than the rest, the other could have been eaten instead >of run off…)
Today I saw about 10 or 12 dead tadpoles in the shallow end of my pond. I fished one out and looked it over, and from what I’ve seen on the Internet, its pretty certain I’ve got bullfrog tadpoles. Circumnavigating my pond, one sees hundreds of these tadpoles and believe me they are quite large. I hate to lose even one tadpole, but I guess that’s why female bullfrogs lay about 20,000 eggs at a time. I’m really perplexed by the apparent disappearance of all my bullfrogs but one. I’m hoping that female is up that drain pipe with the lone male. The male ventured out yesterday and sat in some reeds for a number of hours, but he eventually went back up in the pipe. I can see him with my flashlight. My wife subscribes to Highlights, which is a childrens magazine, and ironically there was an article in the current issue on bullfrogs. I never realized how agressive bullfrogs are.
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>Cliff wrote << Have you >viewed pictures from this newsgroup before? >> >I have not, but then I think I blocked the binary feature on AOL. >Our computer is in the kitchen/diningroom/livingroom area of our >house and I can’t take the chance of opening a picture that would cause me to >swoon and thrill the teenage boys that hang out at our house….
Oh, I’ll bet they’ve never seen any pics. <BG> Remember when you were a teen?
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>That was some binary file, took awhile to download out here in the boonies where phone hookups >are terrible and slow. Very pretty fish pond, nice frog, too.
Thanks, I stocked it during the last of May, and I’m really concentrating on vegetation now to provide cover for the bullfrogs. Ponds plants are very costly, but hopefully they grow fast and spread? >Most folks would not like to have binary files posted in this group. There are groups for >binary files, all (that I know of) beginning with "alt." Like >alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.blondes…
I won’t post any more binaries here. I just thought I’d upload a couple since I’ve never done it before. >I think the appropriate group would be alt.binaries.pictures.gardens or something like that. >You post to the binary group, then put a "pointer" in this one. >Brett
Sounds like a good idea. I also thought I could add in the text that I’d be happy to e-mail my pics to those who ask. Cliff
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~~Remember when you were a teen?~~ Yes, and the children assure me that mom was a prude. Honest. k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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Hi All: Not long ago I transplanted 8 adult bullfrogs in my newly constructed 1/2 acre pond. At the time I did not know how to determine the gender of a bullfrog, but after investigation, I found out I had 1 female and 7 males. I’ve had real problems keeping the frogs. I fear that all but one (a male) have fallen victim to predation. I don’t have much cover in my new pond, and this last bullfrog has found refuge in a french drain pipe from my in ground swimming pool that discharges into the pond. However, I think maybe the female bullfrog may have laid eggs which produced a lot of tadpoles. I never saw the egg mass, but I understand they typically hatch in about four days if the weather is warm. Here in West Virginia we’ve had plenty of hot weather lately! Anyway, I’m seeing hords of large tadpoles in my pond now. They are about 2 inches in length and have a very distinct white underbelly. I also note how voracious they are at eating. Many of them actually break water nipping at things on the surface. They also nibble constantly on what plant life I do have around the pond. I’m wondering if they are indeed bullfrog tadpoles? I have one or two green frogs in my pond, but I’m not sure if their tadpoles would be so large shortly after hatching. Does anyone have an opinion on the species of these tadpoles or a method to determine what they are? Thanks. I’ve included a pic of one of my bullfrogs and of my pond taken shortly after it filled during the winter.
Response:
Well, large with a white tummy describes bullfrog tadpoles. I’m not sure what the other frog’s taddies look like, since the green frog looks a lot like the bullfrog. Also don’t know how long it takes them to get from egg to two inches. It could be a territory issue with the male bullfrogs, one ran off the rest. (If one was much larger than the rest, the other could have been eaten instead of run off…) btb the picture did not show up (at least on AOL) and as this isn’t a binary group – can you throw it up on a web page? Here is a web page that has a lot of links and may lead to some more information for you. http://www.teleport.com/~dstroy/lists.html Let us know what you find out! k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Well, large with a white tummy describes bullfrog tadpoles. >I’m not sure what the other frog’s taddies look like, since the green frog >looks a lot like the bullfrog. >Also don’t know how long it takes them to get from egg to two inches. >It could be a territory issue with the male bullfrogs, one ran off the rest. >(If one was much larger than the rest, the other could have been eaten instead >of run off…) >btb the picture did not show up (at least on AOL) and as this isn’t a binary >group – can you throw it up on a web page? >Here is a web page that has a lot of links and may lead to some more >information for you. >http://www.teleport.com/~dstroy/lists.html >Let us know what you find out! >k30 and the water gardening labradors >REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE >http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
Hey, thanks for the reply! I’m hoping real hard they are indeed bullfrog tadpoles. The pictures I posted appeared to have come in as a different file, but with the same post title. After posting them, I downloaded them from the newsgroup and they worked just fine. Have you viewed pictures from this newsgroup before?
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Cliff wrote << Have you viewed pictures from this newsgroup before? >> I have not, but then I think I blocked the binary feature on AOL. Our computer is in the kitchen/diningroom/livingroom area of our house and I can’t take the chance of opening a picture that would cause me to swoon and thrill the teenage boys that hang out at our house…. k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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>Cliff wrote << Have you >viewed pictures from this newsgroup before? >> >I have not, but then I think I blocked the binary feature on AOL. >Our computer is in the kitchen/diningroom/livingroom area of our >house and I can’t take the chance of opening a picture that would cause me to >swoon and thrill the teenage boys that hang out at our house….
That was some binary file, took awhile to download out here in the boonies where phone hookups are terrible and slow. Very pretty fish pond, nice frog, too. Most folks would not like to have binary files posted in this group. There are groups for binary files, all (that I know of) beginning with "alt." Like alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.blondes… I think the appropriate group would be alt.binaries.pictures.gardens or something like that. You post to the binary group, then put a "pointer" in this one. Problem with binary groups is, just like K30 says, they are not moderated or restricted, lots of inappropriate material in groups with lables like "alt.binaries.pictures.astro". Heck, this group gets inapropriate materials, so does the other one I go to a lot "sci.bio.fisheries". Brett – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->k30 and the water gardening labradors >REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE >http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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>Well, large with a white tummy describes bullfrog tadpoles. >I’m not sure what the other frog’s taddies look like, since the green frog >looks a lot like the bullfrog. >Also don’t know how long it takes them to get from egg to two inches. >It could be a territory issue with the male bullfrogs, one ran off the rest. >(If one was much larger than the rest, the other could have been eaten instead >of run off…)
Today I saw about 10 or 12 dead tadpoles in the shallow end of my pond. I fished one out and looked it over, and from what I’ve seen on the Internet, its pretty certain I’ve got bullfrog tadpoles. Circumnavigating my pond, one sees hundreds of these tadpoles and believe me they are quite large. I hate to lose even one tadpole, but I guess that’s why female bullfrogs lay about 20,000 eggs at a time. I’m really perplexed by the apparent disappearance of all my bullfrogs but one. I’m hoping that female is up that drain pipe with the lone male. The male ventured out yesterday and sat in some reeds for a number of hours, but he eventually went back up in the pipe. I can see him with my flashlight. My wife subscribes to Highlights, which is a childrens magazine, and ironically there was an article in the current issue on bullfrogs. I never realized how agressive bullfrogs are.
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>Cliff wrote << Have you >viewed pictures from this newsgroup before? >> >I have not, but then I think I blocked the binary feature on AOL. >Our computer is in the kitchen/diningroom/livingroom area of our >house and I can’t take the chance of opening a picture that would cause me to >swoon and thrill the teenage boys that hang out at our house….
Oh, I’ll bet they’ve never seen any pics. <BG> Remember when you were a teen?
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>That was some binary file, took awhile to download out here in the boonies where phone hookups >are terrible and slow. Very pretty fish pond, nice frog, too.
Thanks, I stocked it during the last of May, and I’m really concentrating on vegetation now to provide cover for the bullfrogs. Ponds plants are very costly, but hopefully they grow fast and spread? >Most folks would not like to have binary files posted in this group. There are groups for >binary files, all (that I know of) beginning with "alt." Like >alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.blondes…
I won’t post any more binaries here. I just thought I’d upload a couple since I’ve never done it before. >I think the appropriate group would be alt.binaries.pictures.gardens or something like that. >You post to the binary group, then put a "pointer" in this one. >Brett
Sounds like a good idea. I also thought I could add in the text that I’d be happy to e-mail my pics to those who ask. Cliff
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~~Remember when you were a teen?~~ Yes, and the children assure me that mom was a prude. Honest. k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html
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