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>You might consider getting a software firewall, and if you have more then >one computer on a LAN and you can afford it, a router with a built in >firewall.

Since a firewall is built into it, WinXP Pro is also a choice. That, & using a switch will allow the use of both IP’s that most cable companies allot to each modem. The switch I use cost only $35. What do small routers cost nowadays?   Zero1

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Hi Zero1,     I got a pretty good one for $CAN 135.00.  I haven’t moved to XP since it is a new release and one should wait for the first service package.  I stayed with win2000 for my software development. Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->You might consider getting a software firewall, and if you have more then >one computer on a LAN and you can afford it, a router with a built in >firewall. > Since a firewall is built into it, WinXP Pro is also a choice. > That, & using a switch will allow the use of both IP’s that most cable > companies allot to each modem. The switch I use cost only $35. > What do small routers cost nowadays? >   Zero1

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The last job I had, the IT fellow did that with about 5.  Engineering drawings take up massive space.  He was great at teaching me stuff so he could get his other job done.  Lord, what they expect people to do nowadays, huh?  So, he’d make sure I did all back up procedures (tapes off-site, etc.,), and usual maintenance.  At that point we really needed some updated software/hardware, but since our Branch was shutting down, they were cost cutting on us.  Girls at the other branches were shocked that I did some of the stuff I did.  "That’s not my job" they’d whine.  IT guys do that.  Well, some times I’d run the office alone as 4 people would be out on site for 3 or so days, so I had follow procedures set in place by the head office or they could not get billings done.  We never had a virus though. Since my nightmares in the summer with viruses, NO MORE.  I have nice AV on machine! I read a column in the paper recently that was actually published in an Ontario paper.  This guy was really putting down people who allow themselves to get viruses nowadays.  They all should be fired, etc.  They are so stupid, idiots.  How can they not figure it out.  How can they not know to never open an attachment.  And on and on.  Boy he was ruthless. Carrie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi SpaceBar, >     Yes I live in London, Ontario.  I threw in the igloo part to tease you a > bit (in a friendly way).  Norton’s seems to do a good job of stopping > viruses at the e-mail account.  It then puts them in quarenteen.  But you > are right, if the integrety of the virus checker can be destroyed by the > virus then the virus can enter your system unchallenged.  I am always > worried about viruses and trojen horses (which I guess are viruses too) > since I run six machines on a LAN. > Peter Canada > too?  Dudley Doright guarding your border?  LOL  Were you watching Red > Green > and all his duct tape again? > I’d never put a virus warning on the group if I had not already checked it > out.  Someone took a real beating here for doing that one day. > You’ve got Norton – From what I read that Goner virus was eating the > Norton > AV then causing havoc.  Norton man on TV was talking about it. > At the NG alt.comp.virus, in one thread they were saying you should never > need an AV.  HUH? > You should just be updating constantly with patches and that should do it. > So there are posters there that do not use AV at all.  Not in this house! > We were spared here, however, no so with Nimda or Sircam.  But them, my AV > was out of date.  We updated when we installed XP with McAfee.  All is > calm > now. > Carrie > > Hi SpaceBar, > >     Sorry to have flamed you.  It was undeserved. > >     I did see something about the virus; but then the water dripping in > my > > igloo short circuited the TV and that was the end of the show.  And > this > > virus is a stinker. Luckily I’ve got Norton’s on my machines so I can > get > > updates and patches easily.  It’s a pretty good product.  Make sure > thought > > that whatever you have you can check and quarenteen e-mail messages as > they > > come in.  That of course assumes that the Virus company has made and > > distributed the updated database for the virus checker. > > Good luck, > > Peter > > > Boy, HAL107, you’ve not watched TV or talked to anyone who has had > this > > > VIRUS have you? > > > Carrie > > > > Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the > > indicators > > > > of a hoax right there. > > > > HAL107 > > > > > I know, but it was on the news, and so was the Norton AV outfit > > talking > > > > > about it.  It is infecting like crazy since early this morning. > > > > > > > BE AWARE !! > > > > > > > A new CATEGORY 3 VIRUS was discovered TODAY (December 4, 2001) > > > > > > > The virus file is an attachment inside an email with the > following > > > > > > message: > > > > > > > How are you ? > > > > > > > When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you. > I > > am > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > harry, I promise you will love it!++ > > > > > > > IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN… > > > > > > > 1. The virus will try to send itself to all users in Outlook > > Address > > > > > Books > > > > > > > 2. The virus (unless removed) will attempt to delete any and > all > > > > Norton > > > > > > Anti-virus files when the computer is restarted. > > > > > > > What to do NOW to protect your system (and your friends) > > > > > > > 1. Update your Anti-virus software immediately. > > > > > > > 2. Forward this message to all your contacts as a warning to > them > > so > > > > > that > > > > > > this virus will not spread. > > > > > > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > > > Carrie

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Hi Carrie,     Don’t be worried about learning things that are not in your job description.  That IT guy was setting you up to have a more secure future. Me Mum was a computer operator back in the 1950’s and she earned twice the salary or an Engineer.  I tease her now, she has a Pentium that she says she doesn’t understand, so I tell her that it is no different from the Comptomotron (sp?) she used back in the 1950’s only faster.     B.C. is in a sorry situation.  My parents live in British Columbia (I lived there for a few years) and they tell me there are only jobs for doctors.  Toronto is alive with jobs related to computers and you might like to connect to the newsgroup ont.jobs for a continual listing.  If you don’t like the urban setting but need to be close to the jobs you might consider Mississauga.  Jobs pop up in places like Hamilton, Kitchener-Waterloo, and Ottawa, but less frequently I think. I think it is way harsh to call victims of viruses idiots.  I have had nimda on my machine, but the autoprotect detected and deleted the infected file before it could activate.  Same with a Trojan horse.  I don’t believe I am an idiot, at least I try my best to minimize my idiotic behaviour. You might consider getting a software firewall, and if you have more then one computer on a LAN and you can afford it, a router with a built in firewall.  This is important to prevent hackers from entering your machines through the ports.  Some of these ports are open by default. Well that’s enough babbling at you.  Take care, Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The last job I had, the IT fellow did that with about 5.  Engineering > drawings take up massive space.  He was great at teaching me stuff so he > could get his other job done.  Lord, what they expect people to do nowadays, > huh?  So, he’d make sure I did all back up procedures (tapes off-site, > etc.,), and usual maintenance.  At that point we really needed some updated > software/hardware, but since our Branch was shutting down, they were cost > cutting on us.  Girls at the other branches were shocked that I did some of > the stuff I did.  "That’s not my job" they’d whine.  IT guys do that. Well, > some times I’d run the office alone as 4 people would be out on site for 3 > or so days, so I had follow procedures set in place by the head office or > they could not get billings done.  We never had a virus though. > Since my nightmares in the summer with viruses, NO MORE.  I have nice AV on > machine! > I read a column in the paper recently that was actually published in an > Ontario paper.  This guy was really putting down people who allow themselves > to get viruses nowadays.  They all should be fired, etc.  They are so > stupid, idiots.  How can they not figure it out.  How can they not know to > never open an attachment.  And on and on.  Boy he was ruthless. > Carrie > Hi SpaceBar, >     Yes I live in London, Ontario.  I threw in the igloo part to tease you > a > bit (in a friendly way).  Norton’s seems to do a good job of stopping > viruses at the e-mail account.  It then puts them in quarenteen.  But you > are right, if the integrety of the virus checker can be destroyed by the > virus then the virus can enter your system unchallenged.  I am always > worried about viruses and trojen horses (which I guess are viruses too) > since I run six machines on a LAN. > Peter > Canada > > too?  Dudley Doright guarding your border?  LOL  Were you watching Red > Green > > and all his duct tape again? > > I’d never put a virus warning on the group if I had not already checked > it > > out.  Someone took a real beating here for doing that one day. > > You’ve got Norton – From what I read that Goner virus was eating the > Norton > > AV then causing havoc.  Norton man on TV was talking about it. > > At the NG alt.comp.virus, in one thread they were saying you should > never > > need an AV.  HUH? > > You should just be updating constantly with patches and that should do > it. > > So there are posters there that do not use AV at all.  Not in this > house! > > We were spared here, however, no so with Nimda or Sircam.  But them, my > AV > > was out of date.  We updated when we installed XP with McAfee.  All is > calm > > now. > > Carrie > > > Hi SpaceBar, > > >     Sorry to have flamed you.  It was undeserved. > > >     I did see something about the virus; but then the water dripping > in > my > > > igloo short circuited the TV and that was the end of the show. And > > this > > > virus is a stinker. Luckily I’ve got Norton’s on my machines so I can > get > > > updates and patches easily.  It’s a pretty good product.  Make sure > > thought > > > that whatever you have you can check and quarenteen e-mail messages as > > they > > > come in.  That of course assumes that the Virus company has made and > > > distributed the updated database for the virus checker. > > > Good luck, > > > Peter > > > > Boy, HAL107, you’ve not watched TV or talked to anyone who has had > this > > > > VIRUS have you? > > > > Carrie > > > > > Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the > > > indicators > > > > > of a hoax right there. > > > > > HAL107 > > > > > > I know, but it was on the news, and so was the Norton AV outfit > > > talking > > > > > > about it.  It is infecting like crazy since early this morning. > > > > > > > > BE AWARE !! > > > > > > > > A new CATEGORY 3 VIRUS was discovered TODAY (December 4, > 2001) > > > > > > > > The virus file is an attachment inside an email with the > > following > > > > > > > message: > > > > > > > > How are you ? > > > > > > > > When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about > you. > I > > > am > > > > in > > > > > a > > > > > > > harry, I promise you will love it!++ > > > > > > > > IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN… > > > > > > > > 1. The virus will try to send itself to all users in Outlook > > > Address > > > > > > Books > > > > > > > > 2. The virus (unless removed) will attempt to delete any and > all > > > > > Norton > > > > > > > Anti-virus files when the computer is restarted. > > > > > > > > What to do NOW to protect your system (and your friends) > > > > > > > > 1. Update your Anti-virus software immediately. > > > > > > > > 2. Forward this message to all your contacts as a warning to > > them > > > so > > > > > > that > > > > > > > this virus will not spread. > > > > > > > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > > > > > > Carrie

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > too?  Dudley Doright guarding your border?  LOL  Were you watching Red Green > and all his duct tape again? > I’d never put a virus warning on the group if I had not already checked it > out.  Someone took a real beating here for doing that one day. > You’ve got Norton – From what I read that Goner virus was eating the Norton > AV then causing havoc.  Norton man on TV was talking about it. > At the NG alt.comp.virus, in one thread they were saying you should never > need an AV.  HUH? > You should just be updating constantly with patches and that should do it. > So there are posters there that do not use AV at all.  Not in this house! > We were spared here, however, no so with Nimda or Sircam.  But them, my AV > was out of date.  We updated when we installed XP with McAfee.  All is calm > now. > Carrie

I’ve actually never had a virus, I’m usually never even sent the ones I hear about.  I did get an email from my sister the other day that was infected, but it was something that had been discovered back in early Sept, so Norton caught it no problem.  My sister is bumming though. — Peace, Gina "Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb.   You know better but I know him. Like I told you, what I said, steal your face right off your head." – Garcia, Hunter

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Hi SpaceBar,     Yes I live in London, Ontario.  I threw in the igloo part to tease you a bit (in a friendly way).  Norton’s seems to do a good job of stopping viruses at the e-mail account.  It then puts them in quarenteen.  But you are right, if the integrety of the virus checker can be destroyed by the virus then the virus can enter your system unchallenged.  I am always worried about viruses and trojen horses (which I guess are viruses too) since I run six machines on a LAN. Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > too?  Dudley Doright guarding your border?  LOL  Were you watching Red Green > and all his duct tape again? > I’d never put a virus warning on the group if I had not already checked it > out.  Someone took a real beating here for doing that one day. > You’ve got Norton – From what I read that Goner virus was eating the Norton > AV then causing havoc.  Norton man on TV was talking about it. > At the NG alt.comp.virus, in one thread they were saying you should never > need an AV.  HUH? > You should just be updating constantly with patches and that should do it. > So there are posters there that do not use AV at all.  Not in this house! > We were spared here, however, no so with Nimda or Sircam.  But them, my AV > was out of date.  We updated when we installed XP with McAfee.  All is calm > now. > Carrie > Hi SpaceBar, >     Sorry to have flamed you.  It was undeserved. >     I did see something about the virus; but then the water dripping in my > igloo short circuited the TV and that was the end of the show.  And > this > virus is a stinker. Luckily I’ve got Norton’s on my machines so I can get > updates and patches easily.  It’s a pretty good product.  Make sure > thought > that whatever you have you can check and quarenteen e-mail messages as > they > come in.  That of course assumes that the Virus company has made and > distributed the updated database for the virus checker. > Good luck, > Peter > > Boy, HAL107, you’ve not watched TV or talked to anyone who has had this > > VIRUS have you? > > Carrie > > > Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the > indicators > > > of a hoax right there. > > > HAL107 > > > > I know, but it was on the news, and so was the Norton AV outfit > talking > > > > about it.  It is infecting like crazy since early this morning. > > > > > > BE AWARE !! > > > > > > A new CATEGORY 3 VIRUS was discovered TODAY (December 4, 2001) > > > > > > The virus file is an attachment inside an email with the > following > > > > > message: > > > > > > How are you ? > > > > > > When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you. I > am > > in > > > a > > > > > harry, I promise you will love it!++ > > > > > > IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN… > > > > > > 1. The virus will try to send itself to all users in Outlook > Address > > > > Books > > > > > > 2. The virus (unless removed) will attempt to delete any and all > > > Norton > > > > > Anti-virus files when the computer is restarted. > > > > > > What to do NOW to protect your system (and your friends) > > > > > > 1. Update your Anti-virus software immediately. > > > > > > 2. Forward this message to all your contacts as a warning to > them > so > > > > that > > > > > this virus will not spread. > > > > > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > > > > Carrie

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too?  Dudley Doright guarding your border?  LOL  Were you watching Red Green and all his duct tape again? I’d never put a virus warning on the group if I had not already checked it out.  Someone took a real beating here for doing that one day. You’ve got Norton – From what I read that Goner virus was eating the Norton AV then causing havoc.  Norton man on TV was talking about it. At the NG alt.comp.virus, in one thread they were saying you should never need an AV.  HUH? You should just be updating constantly with patches and that should do it. So there are posters there that do not use AV at all.  Not in this house! We were spared here, however, no so with Nimda or Sircam.  But them, my AV was out of date.  We updated when we installed XP with McAfee.  All is calm now. Carrie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi SpaceBar, >     Sorry to have flamed you.  It was undeserved. >     I did see something about the virus; but then the water dripping in my > igloo short circuited the TV and that was the end of the show.  And this > virus is a stinker. Luckily I’ve got Norton’s on my machines so I can get > updates and patches easily.  It’s a pretty good product.  Make sure thought > that whatever you have you can check and quarenteen e-mail messages as they > come in.  That of course assumes that the Virus company has made and > distributed the updated database for the virus checker. > Good luck, > Peter > Boy, HAL107, you’ve not watched TV or talked to anyone who has had this > VIRUS have you? > Carrie > > Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the > indicators > > of a hoax right there. > > HAL107 > > > I know, but it was on the news, and so was the Norton AV outfit > talking > > > about it.  It is infecting like crazy since early this morning. > > > > > BE AWARE !! > > > > > A new CATEGORY 3 VIRUS was discovered TODAY (December 4, 2001) > > > > > The virus file is an attachment inside an email with the following > > > > message: > > > > > How are you ? > > > > > When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you. I > am > in > > a > > > > harry, I promise you will love it!++ > > > > > IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN… > > > > > 1. The virus will try to send itself to all users in Outlook > Address > > > Books > > > > > 2. The virus (unless removed) will attempt to delete any and all > > Norton > > > > Anti-virus files when the computer is restarted. > > > > > What to do NOW to protect your system (and your friends) > > > > > 1. Update your Anti-virus software immediately. > > > > > 2. Forward this message to all your contacts as a warning to them > so > > > that > > > > this virus will not spread. > > > > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > > > Carrie

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I did miss it.  My partners in crime didn’t tell me about it.  But the > problem is that sending it to all your friends has the unfortunate effect of > putting extra load on the internet system.  It does put one on the horns of > a delema since the disemination of a warning is an important part of a > defense against a virus.  But don’t mind me; I’m not myself today. > HAL107 > Hey, we all have our days, don’t we?  I can understand where you’re > coming from though.  I have a friend who is constantly sending me virus > warnings and they are always on the hoax list. > — > Peace, > Gina

Gina.  I have a friend that sends me warnings also.  Not one he has send has been on a hoax list.  Thankfully.  He also sends me a lot of really disgusting links and jokes.  Where he gets those must be top secret. Carrie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb. > You know better but I know him. > Like I told you, what I said, steal your face right off your head." – > Garcia, Hunter

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Hi SpaceBar,     Sorry to have flamed you.  It was undeserved.     I did see something about the virus; but then the water dripping in my igloo short circuited the TV and that was the end of the show.  And this virus is a stinker. Luckily I’ve got Norton’s on my machines so I can get updates and patches easily.  It’s a pretty good product.  Make sure thought that whatever you have you can check and quarenteen e-mail messages as they come in.  That of course assumes that the Virus company has made and distributed the updated database for the virus checker. Good luck, Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Boy, HAL107, you’ve not watched TV or talked to anyone who has had this > VIRUS have you? > Carrie > Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the indicators > of a hoax right there. > HAL107 > > I know, but it was on the news, and so was the Norton AV outfit talking > > about it.  It is infecting like crazy since early this morning. > > > > BE AWARE !! > > > > A new CATEGORY 3 VIRUS was discovered TODAY (December 4, 2001) > > > > The virus file is an attachment inside an email with the following > > > message: > > > > How are you ? > > > > When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you. I am > in > a > > > harry, I promise you will love it!++ > > > > IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN… > > > > 1. The virus will try to send itself to all users in Outlook Address > > Books > > > > 2. The virus (unless removed) will attempt to delete any and all > Norton > > > Anti-virus files when the computer is restarted. > > > > What to do NOW to protect your system (and your friends) > > > > 1. Update your Anti-virus software immediately. > > > > 2. Forward this message to all your contacts as a warning to them so > > that > > > this virus will not spread. > > > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > > Carrie

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>Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the indicators >of a hoax right there. >HAL107 > The biggest sign that a virus warning is a hoax. I get the warning > BEFORE someone sends me the virus.   Ralph

Ditto, same message applies to you as to HAL107 Carrie

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the indicators > of a hoax right there. > HAL107 > <snip> > > > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > > Carrie > Perhaps you missed this link.  This is _not_ a hoax > McAfee has something on it too: > http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99272& > — > Peace, > Gina

Gee, peace at last.  I’m not as stupid at they think.  Thanks Gina. GEEEEEESSSSHHHH! Just insane. Carrie  ;-) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb.  You know better but I know > him. > Like I told you, what I said, steal your face right off your head." – > Garcia, Hunter

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OK HAL107, who are you then?  Check out alt.comp.virus They are serious at that NG.  They are mostly a bunch that work with ugly viruses, etc., either for a living or hobby.  But, any info I’ve requested there has been on the UP and UP. Carrie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I did miss it.  My partners in crime didn’t tell me about it.  But the > problem is that sending it to all your friends has the unfortunate effect of > putting extra load on the internet system.  It does put one on the horns of > a delema since the disemination of a warning is an important part of a > defense against a virus.  But don’t mind me; I’m not myself today. > HAL107 > > Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the > indicators > > of a hoax right there. > > HAL107 > <snip> > > > > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > > > Carrie > Perhaps you missed this link.  This is _not_ a hoax > McAfee has something on it too: > http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99272& > — > Peace, > Gina > "Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb.  You know better but I know > him. > Like I told you, what I said, steal your face right off your head." – > Garcia, Hunter

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Thanks Gina,     I’m beginning to feel a bit better now.  My head isn’t spinning, and I have returned to my normal handle. Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I did miss it.  My partners in crime didn’t tell me about it.  But the > problem is that sending it to all your friends has the unfortunate effect of > putting extra load on the internet system.  It does put one on the horns of > a delema since the disemination of a warning is an important part of a > defense against a virus.  But don’t mind me; I’m not myself today. > HAL107 > Hey, we all have our days, don’t we?  I can understand where you’re > coming from though.  I have a friend who is constantly sending me virus > warnings and they are always on the hoax list. > — > Peace, > Gina > "Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb. > You know better but I know him. > Like I told you, what I said, steal your face right off your head." – > Garcia, Hunter

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Boy, HAL107, you’ve not watched TV or talked to anyone who has had this VIRUS have you? Carrie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the indicators > of a hoax right there. > HAL107 > I know, but it was on the news, and so was the Norton AV outfit talking > about it.  It is infecting like crazy since early this morning. > > > BE AWARE !! > > > A new CATEGORY 3 VIRUS was discovered TODAY (December 4, 2001) > > > The virus file is an attachment inside an email with the following > > message: > > > How are you ? > > > When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you. I am in > a > > harry, I promise you will love it!++ > > > IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN… > > > 1. The virus will try to send itself to all users in Outlook Address > Books > > > 2. The virus (unless removed) will attempt to delete any and all > Norton > > Anti-virus files when the computer is restarted. > > > What to do NOW to protect your system (and your friends) > > > 1. Update your Anti-virus software immediately. > > > 2. Forward this message to all your contacts as a warning to them so > that > > this virus will not spread. > > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > Carrie

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>Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the indicators >of a hoax right there. >HAL107

The biggest sign that a virus warning is a hoax. I get the warning BEFORE someone sends me the virus.   Ralph

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the indicators > of a hoax right there. > HAL107 <snip> > > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > Carrie

Perhaps you missed this link.  This is _not_ a hoax McAfee has something on it too: http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99272& — Peace, Gina "Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb.  You know better but I know him. Like I told you, what I said, steal your face right off your head." – Garcia, Hunter

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I did miss it.  My partners in crime didn’t tell me about it.  But the problem is that sending it to all your friends has the unfortunate effect of putting extra load on the internet system.  It does put one on the horns of a delema since the disemination of a warning is an important part of a defense against a virus.  But don’t mind me; I’m not myself today. HAL107

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the indicators > of a hoax right there. > HAL107 > <snip> > > > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > > Carrie > Perhaps you missed this link.  This is _not_ a hoax > McAfee has something on it too: > http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99272& > — > Peace, > Gina > "Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb.  You know better but I know > him. > Like I told you, what I said, steal your face right off your head." – > Garcia, Hunter

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I know, but it was on the news, and so was the Norton AV outfit talking about it.  It is infecting like crazy since early this morning. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> BE AWARE !! > A new CATEGORY 3 VIRUS was discovered TODAY (December 4, 2001) > The virus file is an attachment inside an email with the following > message: > How are you ? > When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you. I am in a > harry, I promise you will love it!++ > IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN… > 1. The virus will try to send itself to all users in Outlook Address Books > 2. The virus (unless removed) will attempt to delete any and all Norton > Anti-virus files when the computer is restarted. > What to do NOW to protect your system (and your friends) > 1. Update your Anti-virus software immediately. > 2. Forward this message to all your contacts as a warning to them so that > this virus will not spread. > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link:

Carrie

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Hello Group, upgraded to a category 4 worm.  Please see for more complete information.  It is also listed in the latest update of Norton’s. Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know, but it was on the news, and so was the Norton AV outfit talking > about it.  It is infecting like crazy since early this morning. > > BE AWARE !! > > A new CATEGORY 3 VIRUS was discovered TODAY (December 4, 2001) > > The virus file is an attachment inside an email with the following > message: > > How are you ? > > When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you. I am in a > harry, I promise you will love it!++ > > IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN… > > 1. The virus will try to send itself to all users in Outlook Address > Books > > 2. The virus (unless removed) will attempt to delete any and all Norton > Anti-virus files when the computer is restarted. > > What to do NOW to protect your system (and your friends) > > 1. Update your Anti-virus software immediately. > > 2. Forward this message to all your contacts as a warning to them so > that > this virus will not spread. > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > Carrie

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    I recently subscribed to a daily e-mail newsletter that provides information about the latest viruses.  Honestly, I cannot tell you whether it is good or bad; but if any of you would like to try it out (there is a opt-out feature) you can sign on at http://www.oxygen3.com . Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know, but it was on the news, and so was the Norton AV outfit talking > about it.  It is infecting like crazy since early this morning. > > BE AWARE !! > > A new CATEGORY 3 VIRUS was discovered TODAY (December 4, 2001) > > The virus file is an attachment inside an email with the following > message: > > How are you ? > > When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you. I am in a > harry, I promise you will love it!++ > > IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN… > > 1. The virus will try to send itself to all users in Outlook Address > Books > > 2. The virus (unless removed) will attempt to delete any and all Norton > Anti-virus files when the computer is restarted. > > What to do NOW to protect your system (and your friends) > > 1. Update your Anti-virus software immediately. > > 2. Forward this message to all your contacts as a warning to them so > that > this virus will not spread. > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > Carrie

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> I did miss it.  My partners in crime didn’t tell me about it.  But the > problem is that sending it to all your friends has the unfortunate effect of > putting extra load on the internet system.  It does put one on the horns of > a delema since the disemination of a warning is an important part of a > defense against a virus.  But don’t mind me; I’m not myself today. > HAL107

Hey, we all have our days, don’t we?  I can understand where you’re coming from though.  I have a friend who is constantly sending me virus warnings and they are always on the hoax list. — Peace, Gina "Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb. You know better but I know him. Like I told you, what I said, steal your face right off your head." – Garcia, Hunter

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Very good.  No Hoax you say.  Tell your friends.  These are the indicators of a hoax right there. HAL107

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know, but it was on the news, and so was the Norton AV outfit talking > about it.  It is infecting like crazy since early this morning. > > BE AWARE !! > > A new CATEGORY 3 VIRUS was discovered TODAY (December 4, 2001) > > The virus file is an attachment inside an email with the following > message: > > How are you ? > > When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you. I am in a > harry, I promise you will love it!++ > > IF YOU OPEN THE ATTACHMENT THE FOLLOWING WILL HAPPEN… > > 1. The virus will try to send itself to all users in Outlook Address > Books > > 2. The virus (unless removed) will attempt to delete any and all Norton > Anti-virus files when the computer is restarted. > > What to do NOW to protect your system (and your friends) > > 1. Update your Anti-virus software immediately. > > 2. Forward this message to all your contacts as a warning to them so > that > this virus will not spread. > > For a FULL WRITE UP on this new virus, visit this link: > Carrie

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