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Here’s the scenario:  about two weeks ago I noticed some of my pond goldfish and shubunkins with a fuzzy fungus type of problem.  I bought some Remedy, and treated the whole pond.  (Not cheap in a 4,000 gallon pond!)    I didn’t notice any improvement, so I set up a fish tank in the house with some of the medicated pond water, and added some salt.    I caught one of the sick fish and brought him in, and I don’t see much of a difference in the tank, either.  No better, no worse.  I was FINALLY able to catch another sick fish two days ago (again, not easy in a 4000 gallon pond) and put him in the fishtank, too.   He died after two days.    So now I have to wonder if the sick fish are better off in the pond or in the fishtank?   Any ideas why this second one died once I brought him in? Sue

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Hi, sorry to hear about your poor fishy. One of my fish is ill at the moment with some fungal infection (it is a new fish, and I should have known better really because although it was fine when I bought it, it was ill within a day or two of getting it home and I suspect it already had caught the fungus from one of the other fish in the same tank at the garden centre which was shown signs of being ill! So I should really have avoided the whole tank I think!?). Anyway, my logistics are easier as my pond is much smaller (1,800 litres). Personally I think it is better to quarantine the sick fish as you did and treat it in the quarantine tank, being careful about dosages (which will be very small compared to the pond), I usually leave them outdoors though providing the weather isn’t extreme (which in the UK it isn’t – anyone know what "zone" the UK is?). I leave the quarantine tank (45 litre box!) in the shade and cover it at night. I do partial water changes every other day (topping up with pond water). Maybe your fish was too unwell to recover? Maybe it was the temperature change of moving indoors, or the stress of being caught (my fish was much easier to catch as it was quite lethargic). I always use pond water in my quarantine tank and add a few oxygenators. When I add water I usually add it with a watering can to aerate it a bit (not sure if this is really necessary, but I guess it can’t hurt?). I haven’t used any salt in my pond, I am still researching this. I have just rebuilt/refilled my pond, prior to which it was fine for two years without salt. I’m not sure about fungal infections and what the recovery rate is, I know my last fish didn’t recover from it because it got eaten alive by the neighbours cat which fished it from its quarantine tank… hence I have learnt to cover the tank now!! Also add a pot/basket on its side held down with a few stones which will give the sick fish somewhere to hide, should help reduce stress also. Good luck.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here’s the scenario:  about two weeks ago I noticed some of my pond goldfish > and shubunkins with a fuzzy fungus type of problem.  I bought some Remedy, > and treated the whole pond.  (Not cheap in a 4,000 gallon pond!)    I didn’t > notice any improvement, so I set up a fish tank in the house with some of > the medicated pond water, and added some salt.    I caught one of the sick > fish and brought him in, and I don’t see much of a difference in the tank, > either.  No better, no worse.  I was FINALLY able to catch another sick fish > two days ago (again, not easy in a 4000 gallon pond) and put him in the > fishtank, too.   He died after two days.    So now I have to wonder if the > sick fish are better off in the pond or in the fishtank?   Any ideas why > this second one died once I brought him in?

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yeah, pond fish are loaded with crud and gotta be cleaned off when being brought into a tank.. http://puregold.aquaria.net/care/care2.htm#in from the pond Ingrid >Here’s the scenario:  about two weeks ago I noticed some of my pond goldfish >and shubunkins with a fuzzy fungus type of problem.  I bought some Remedy, >and treated the whole pond.  (Not cheap in a 4,000 gallon pond!)    I didn’t >notice any improvement, so I set up a fish tank in the house with some of >the medicated pond water, and added some salt.    I caught one of the sick >fish and brought him in, and I don’t see much of a difference in the tank, >either.  No better, no worse.  I was FINALLY able to catch another sick fish >two days ago (again, not easy in a 4000 gallon pond) and put him in the >fishtank, too.   He died after two days.    So now I have to wonder if the >sick fish are better off in the pond or in the fishtank?   Any ideas why >this second one died once I brought him in? >Sue

List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List for care of goldfish go to http://puregold.aquaria.net/ Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who’s to blame

Response:

Here’s the scenario:  about two weeks ago I noticed some of my pond goldfish and shubunkins with a fuzzy fungus type of problem.  I bought some Remedy, and treated the whole pond.  (Not cheap in a 4,000 gallon pond!)    I didn’t notice any improvement, so I set up a fish tank in the house with some of the medicated pond water, and added some salt.    I caught one of the sick fish and brought him in, and I don’t see much of a difference in the tank, either.  No better, no worse.  I was FINALLY able to catch another sick fish two days ago (again, not easy in a 4000 gallon pond) and put him in the fishtank, too.   He died after two days.    So now I have to wonder if the sick fish are better off in the pond or in the fishtank?   Any ideas why this second one died once I brought him in? Sue

Response:

Hi, sorry to hear about your poor fishy. One of my fish is ill at the moment with some fungal infection (it is a new fish, and I should have known better really because although it was fine when I bought it, it was ill within a day or two of getting it home and I suspect it already had caught the fungus from one of the other fish in the same tank at the garden centre which was shown signs of being ill! So I should really have avoided the whole tank I think!?). Anyway, my logistics are easier as my pond is much smaller (1,800 litres). Personally I think it is better to quarantine the sick fish as you did and treat it in the quarantine tank, being careful about dosages (which will be very small compared to the pond), I usually leave them outdoors though providing the weather isn’t extreme (which in the UK it isn’t – anyone know what "zone" the UK is?). I leave the quarantine tank (45 litre box!) in the shade and cover it at night. I do partial water changes every other day (topping up with pond water). Maybe your fish was too unwell to recover? Maybe it was the temperature change of moving indoors, or the stress of being caught (my fish was much easier to catch as it was quite lethargic). I always use pond water in my quarantine tank and add a few oxygenators. When I add water I usually add it with a watering can to aerate it a bit (not sure if this is really necessary, but I guess it can’t hurt?). I haven’t used any salt in my pond, I am still researching this. I have just rebuilt/refilled my pond, prior to which it was fine for two years without salt. I’m not sure about fungal infections and what the recovery rate is, I know my last fish didn’t recover from it because it got eaten alive by the neighbours cat which fished it from its quarantine tank… hence I have learnt to cover the tank now!! Also add a pot/basket on its side held down with a few stones which will give the sick fish somewhere to hide, should help reduce stress also. Good luck.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here’s the scenario:  about two weeks ago I noticed some of my pond goldfish > and shubunkins with a fuzzy fungus type of problem.  I bought some Remedy, > and treated the whole pond.  (Not cheap in a 4,000 gallon pond!)    I didn’t > notice any improvement, so I set up a fish tank in the house with some of > the medicated pond water, and added some salt.    I caught one of the sick > fish and brought him in, and I don’t see much of a difference in the tank, > either.  No better, no worse.  I was FINALLY able to catch another sick fish > two days ago (again, not easy in a 4000 gallon pond) and put him in the > fishtank, too.   He died after two days.    So now I have to wonder if the > sick fish are better off in the pond or in the fishtank?   Any ideas why > this second one died once I brought him in?

Response:

yeah, pond fish are loaded with crud and gotta be cleaned off when being brought into a tank.. http://puregold.aquaria.net/care/care2.htm#in from the pond Ingrid >Here’s the scenario:  about two weeks ago I noticed some of my pond goldfish >and shubunkins with a fuzzy fungus type of problem.  I bought some Remedy, >and treated the whole pond.  (Not cheap in a 4,000 gallon pond!)    I didn’t >notice any improvement, so I set up a fish tank in the house with some of >the medicated pond water, and added some salt.    I caught one of the sick >fish and brought him in, and I don’t see much of a difference in the tank, >either.  No better, no worse.  I was FINALLY able to catch another sick fish >two days ago (again, not easy in a 4000 gallon pond) and put him in the >fishtank, too.   He died after two days.    So now I have to wonder if the >sick fish are better off in the pond or in the fishtank?   Any ideas why >this second one died once I brought him in? >Sue

List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List for care of goldfish go to http://puregold.aquaria.net/ Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who’s to blame

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