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>> (FWIW I still haven’t decided which way to go on my next hood: $600 > seems too much but I don’t want a worthless noise generator again)-:
We have a Frigidaire hood from the "Gallery" line (stainless & black) and it is SOOOO quiet, sometimes we have forgotten it is on, and run it for a couple of days. Luckily, ours vented striaght out the back, there was not even a stud in the way. -v.
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> My questions are: > 1) Do you have any experience with this project, and any advice you’d like > to offer me?
Yeah, there’s always going to be something blocking that nice straight route you had planned out… How long a run through the cabinets are you talking about? Most kitchens can’t afford to give up a lot of cabinet space to ductwork. > 2) Who makes an exhaust fan that mounts on the outside wall, so the noise is > outside, not in the kitchen?
Lots of companies do. (Or at least lots of companies put their name on them; probably only a few actually make them.) A few names at random: Broan, Thermador, Faber, Viking, Kitchenaid. I don’t know if Vent-a-Hood sells a separate fan unit, but they may be worth looking at anyway. Note that separate ventilator units are considered kind of a high-end thing, so that (a) you’ll end up with something that pulls a lot more air than you might be used to (900-1200 cfm is common); and (b) you’ll find things cost a bit more than you might be expecting (let’s say $600 +/-, to start with). If this is a bit much for you, you might want to look at better-quality integrated ventilator units. With some care on the installation (smooth duct runs, maybe some sound insulation), you might be able to keep the noise level down far enough. > 3) Can I use the existing hood to exhaust outside with the appropriate > fitting, or do I need a new hood designed to be routed outside?
Well, if you’re going with an external ventilator, your current hood is becoming little more than a sheet metal orifice, so in a sense it could do. But whatever filter it has probably won’t work so well with a high cfm blower, and its switch will probably be wrong, and you’ll likely have to do some creative cutting to fit the larger ductwork, etc. So expect problems. On the other hand, some of the internally "venting" hoods are designed to be convertible to exterior venting. If that’s what you’ve got, you could just put in the ductwork for it as a minimal solution. Not great, maybe, but definitely the cheapest route. > Replys to my email are most appreciated, its tough for me to get to the > group often enough, and don’t want to miss any of your great
information. Oh, wait, it was "great" information you wanted. Just forget about it then… — Yasashii Arbaito Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
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> (FWIW I still haven’t decided which way to go on my next hood: $600 > seems too much but I don’t want a worthless noise generator again)-:
You don’t have to pay _quite_ that much, especially if you can put in some of the work yourself. We had installed a second-to-top-line Venmar; the hood itself pulls more than enough CFM for our gas stove. It cost us around $300. The expensive part was the ductwork necessary to send it outside … But we still ended up below $600 — and this is an area where YM_definitely_MV! — "This is only temporary — unless it works!" — Red Green Steve & Joanne Dropkin: change .not to .net in the address!
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also steam / water vapor especially during humid weather – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What is the purpose of venting the fan over the stove outside? I’m about to > buy a townhome, and this would be impossible, as the stove is on a shared wall. > a) because who wants the airborne grease blown around the kitchen, > b) to actually remove the smoke when you burn something, > c) in the summer, to remove heat. > Those are the obvious that come to my mind. > –Chris
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> > What is the purpose of venting the fan over the stove outside? I’m about to > buy a townhome, and this would be impossible, as the stove is on a shared wall. > a) because who wants the airborne grease blown around the kitchen, > b) to actually remove the smoke when you burn something, > c) in the summer, to remove heat. > Those are the obvious that come to my mind. > –Chris
To remove all traces that my wife was in the kitchen ATTEMPTING to cook again…
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I am about to begin a project to vent my kitchen exhaust fan outside. > Currently, there is a GE brand exhaust fan over the stove, vented into the > kitchen. There is a nearby wall, and place to run the ductwork inside the > cabinetry. > My questions are: > 1) Do you have any experience with this project, and any advice you’d like > to offer me? > 2) Who makes an exhaust fan that mounts on the outside wall, so the noise is > outside, not in the kitchen? > 3) Can I use the existing hood to exhaust outside with the appropriate > fitting, or do I need a new hood designed to be routed outside? > Replys to my email are most appreciated, its tough for me to get to the > group often enough, and don’t want to miss any of your great information. > Thanks!
Peter, I can’t tell you much about the installation etc. but I can tell you our experience. We had a Nutone over the range fan that exhausts outside put in our home when we built last year because I HATE cooking smells in the house. I don’t have the exact model, but it was ~$175 and I hate it. It is noisy and ugly, but it does pull the odors and grease out. I can find the exact model if you want me to.
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> What is the purpose of venting the fan over the stove outside? I’m about to > buy a townhome, and this would be impossible, as the stove is on a shared wall.
a) because who wants the airborne grease blown around the kitchen, b) to actually remove the smoke when you burn something, c) in the summer, to remove heat. Those are the obvious that come to my mind. –Chris
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What is the purpose of venting the fan over the stove outside? I’m about to buy a townhome, and this would be impossible, as the stove is on a shared wall. Just curious, Lynnette – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> (FWIW I still haven’t decided which way to go on my next hood: $600 > seems too much but I don’t want a worthless noise generator again)-: > You don’t have to pay _quite_ that much, especially if you can put in some > of the work yourself. We had installed a second-to-top-line Venmar; the > hood itself pulls more than enough CFM for our gas stove. It cost us around > $300. The expensive part was the ductwork necessary to send it outside … > But we still ended up below $600 — and this is an area where > YM_definitely_MV! > — > "This is only temporary — unless it works!" — Red Green > Steve & Joanne Dropkin: change .not to .net in the address!
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> What is the purpose of venting the fan over the stove outside? I’m about to > buy a townhome, and this would be impossible, as the stove is on a shared
wall. You want to get airborne grease particles out of the house (not settling on your cabinets, walls, furniture), you want to get smells (onions, fish, curry, whatever you cook) out of the house, and, if you use a gas stove, to get the byproducts of combustion (including carbon monoxide) out of the house. Speaking personally, if they can’t vent the stove up or out (our vent is straight up), I’d tell ‘em to forget the hood entirely and give you a credit. It won’t do anything but annoy you. — "This is only temporary — unless it works!" — Red Green Steve & Joanne Dropkin: change .not to .net in the address!
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I am about to begin a project to vent my kitchen exhaust fan outside. Currently, there is a GE brand exhaust fan over the stove, vented into the kitchen. There is a nearby wall, and place to run the ductwork inside the cabinetry. My questions are: 1) Do you have any experience with this project, and any advice you’d like to offer me? 2) Who makes an exhaust fan that mounts on the outside wall, so the noise is outside, not in the kitchen? 3) Can I use the existing hood to exhaust outside with the appropriate fitting, or do I need a new hood designed to be routed outside? Replys to my email are most appreciated, its tough for me to get to the group often enough, and don’t want to miss any of your great information. Thanks!
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> Currently, there is a GE brand exhaust fan over the stove, vented into the > kitchen.
Gag, why do builders do that. > There is a nearby wall, and place to run the ductwork inside the > cabinetry. > My questions are: > 1) Do you have any experience with this project, and any advice you’d like > to offer me?
We got a normal-issue hood (around $50) with built-in fan and vented it through the wall. It works but doesn’t suck enough. The fan’s a propeller style, rather than squirrel-cage so it’s noisey and not very efficient. > 2) Who makes an exhaust fan that mounts on the outside wall, so the noise is > outside, not in the kitchen?
I haven’t looked into this — I’m concerned about the appearance of an ugly industrial-looking mushroom-shaped fan cover on the side of the house. > 3) Can I use the existing hood to exhaust outside with the appropriate > fitting, or do I need a new hood designed to be routed outside?
Probably can, but I think consumer-grade hoods really aren’t designed to pull that much air. Check the ones at www.wolfstoves.com — they’re way pricey ($600 and up) but they have built-in high-quality fans. I read a number of years ago on this group of someone who got a local metal shop to bend ‘em one from stainless and they put in a quality blower. Said it worked well and saved lots o’ bux. (FWIW I still haven’t decided which way to go on my next hood: $600 seems too much but I don’t want a worthless noise generator again)-:
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I am remodelling my house including the kitchen. I have heard of a high powered (1000 CFM?) kitchen exhaust fan unit installed on the roof works very well and operates very quietly. I would like to hear if anyone has any experience with this. I have picked up a Nutone catalog. Is it a good brand? What other brands are out there?. I will evaluate the above as well as the regular kitchen exhaust fan by SanYang as advertised on Chinese TV which claims it works very well for Chinese stir fry cooking, though I have not looked into it yet. Any feedback on kitchen exhaust is greatly appreciated. Ellen Chu
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When we remodeled our house in 1989 we put in a Thermador 1000 CFM fan, with the blower on the roof. Let me tell you, it was the best decision we ever made. The smokiest cooking couldn’t faze it, and it also helped when chopping onions. The hood had a bit of an industrial look — brushed aluminum — but the twin warming lights were great and the light was bright and all in all it was a great range hood. We purposely didn’t use Nutone because we preferred a company that specialized in cooking tools, which Thermador was (at least, then it was). In our present house we put in a 600CFM exterior mounted fan which is a bit noisier as it isn’t on the roof but mounted directly outside the kitchen. Still, it’s infinitely better than a standard range hood fan with an anemic suction. –Welmoed – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I am remodelling my house including the kitchen. I have heard of > a high powered (1000 CFM?) kitchen exhaust fan unit installed on the roof > works very well and operates very quietly. I would like to hear if anyone > has any experience with this. I have picked up a Nutone catalog. Is it > a good brand? What other brands are out there?. > I will evaluate the above as well as the regular kitchen exhaust > fan by SanYang as advertised on Chinese TV which claims it works very > well for Chinese stir fry cooking, though I have not looked into it yet. > Any feedback on kitchen exhaust is greatly appreciated. > Ellen Chu
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